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Lincoln Re-Examined

Paulus Textor Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 8:48 AM
Doris Kearns-Goodwin, an admitted plagiarist, was Spielberg's leftist adviser on this movie. She has written that no researcher ever, ever found a racist pronouncement in any of Lincoln's speeches. Never mind that he openly supported a movement to ship all blacks back to Africa or--if that proved impractical--to islands in the Caribbean. Never mind that he openly called for the white race to always hold the "superior position." Never mind that he advocated against allowing blacks to hold political office, or to serve as jurors. Nope--no one has ever, ever found anything racist about Lincoln. If you want to get something other than starry-eyed worship of the tyrant Lincoln, google "Tom DiLorenzo."
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 2:05 PM


I'm of the opinion the book where Lincoln comes from was good history.

Kearns Goodwin didn't place Lincoln on a pedestal or glorify him. she told his story honestly. He did things by hook or by crook; and even tried his best to keep his son OUT of the service. So, he wasn't shown to be our icon.

the trouble for his critics is; he was a
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 2:11 PM


He was a successful leader and politician. He took plenty of abuse in those awful days, too.

But what I'm impressed with is the film tells it from black people's point of view as well. They are NOT shown as odd little jungle-bunnies. The respect they get from Spielberg, Day-Lewis and the script is wonderful. Black Americans ought to run, don't walk --to see Lincoln!



Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 2:04 PM


I'm of the opinion the book where Lincoln comes from was good history.

Kearns Goodwin didn't place Lincoln on a pedestal or glorify him. she told his story honestly. He did things by hook or by crook; and even tried his best to keep his son OUT of the service. So, he wasn't shown to be our icon.

the trouble for his critics is; he was a
Texas Chris Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 10:56 AM
Lincoln Unmasked was such a shocking wake-up call for me that I read it every year. I was so deeply offended the first time I read it that I felt compelled to go listen to the heretic DiLorenzo in Auburn, Alabama.

I came away a changed man.
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 9:42 AM
You are now on my "other bookmarks" along with Loyal Democrat! Sorry it took so long.
Every schoolchild with enough smarts and curiosity to get beyond the latest video game of "Call of Duty" ought to go see "Lincoln," the movie, and check out the references and his own attention span. It requires patience, but it shows through dramatic action how a self-taught rustic from the deep backwoods had the emotional and intellectual discipline to overcome poverty and grow up to be a president to rank among the greatest.

This is not about the American Dream or a Horatio Alger story. (Does anybody remember him?) Nor is it mythmaking. It's made of sterner stuff than that....