This is America. You don't want your feewings hurt? Then go watch Fox or listen to talk radio.

Selfmade writes:*** I don't know if AZDon is ignorant, but you are, and stupid, pious, and suffer from Narcissistic personality disorder. Seek help.*** Oh brother, here comes the psychobabble. You know, I am old enough to remember the collapse of welfare liberalism and the rise of conservatism back in the 1970s. As welfare liberalism was in its death throes, losing the moral and economic argument, it did the exact same thing you losers do: explain it away with psychobabble. The marketplace of ideas is a tough place, son. You may get your feelings hurt. On the whole, the language used by the American right is inflammatory and deeply offensive. But when you get called "an idiot," it is 'waaaah--he is a meanie!"

Please. Don't treat me like a fool. You do not "win half the elections" as liberals. You win elections as "Democrats" or "Republicans." You were casting doubt on the electoral process in our country by conflating 20% liberals with 50% Democrats. As faith in our election system is vital to our civilization, such sloppy thinking is morally repulsive. I stopped short at "idiotic." Again, I don't know why you losers always demand getting your backside kissed. You sure don't deserve it.

YOU losers should be rounded up and tried for treason--on grounds that you tried to deny the First Freedom to your countrymen, to fellow Americans who, no less than you, have a right to consent to those that govern us. You losers are treacherous louts who trample over the very reason our republic exists.

..and bending them to some partisan emotion in a manner that defies rationality. It is opportunistic nonsense disguised as piety, and it is morally repulsive.

AZ Don: In my vernacular, you are not an idiot because you disagree with me. You are an idiot when you think you know what you do not. I begin with the assumption of my ignorance--but just because I am ignorant does not mean I need to respect those who believe they are not. My ignorance does not prevent me from noticing that YOU are ignorant as well. Additionally, your pious nonsense about not forcing people to take advantage of their inalienable rights--in this case, the right to have a say in government--is just that: pious nonsense. We intervene when people want to kill themselves. We intervene when people surrender their liberty. Here too, an example of taking important principles--our inalienable rights in this case--

ridiculous nonsense.

tynar's posts are another example of how a very serious and important issue is basically used for "messaging" and partisan purposes. It is disgusting how you clowns trample on vital principles--consent of governed, limited government--to manipulate perceptions in order to gain partisan advantage. On the other hand, if Americans were equipped to think rationally, to be the citizens our Founders expected us to be, then this kind of unprincipled yipyap would get no where.

anyhow, these two posts do not have much to do with the topic at hand, beyond a methodological note. The problem of voting irregularity is a statistical issue. So is ensuring "consent of the governed," the First Freedom. It can be handled objectively. But you clowns much prefer moralistic narrative springing from this anecdote or that incident. You prefer small numbers to large numbers, intra-datapoint "analysis" to statistical analysis. And what we get out of it is a bunch of heat--and stupid heat at that. It is why the American right is largely responsible for the decline and fall of American civilization.

Like i said, let's demand that only citizens get to vote and fine those who do not.