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The Mormon Church welfare system runs entirely on donations and volunteers, no one is paid for anything, and many people are fed regularly by the system. They have their own farms, run by volunteers, canneries run by volunteers , warehouses full of goods that go immediately to disasters with all kinds of humanitarian services. They are generally the first ones to a disaster, but seldom are they given public credit. Now the government is making so many regulations that they are being forced to close canneries and some other resources, and where do you think the people that get groceries regularly from Deseret Industries are going to have to turn for their needs? Government welfare, of course. Their canneries and other resources always pass health and safety regulations, but now they are going to have to close down. The system is designed to for a survival system , not a life style and people are expected to work in return, as all are run by volunteers. I guess the government just can't stand for that type of service. When disasters happen, the warehouses are ready with goods needed anywhere and are sent out 1 or 2 days after the need is assessed. The Humanitarian services have sent thousand of needed supplies all aver the world without asking for a cent in return. Thousands of children in Africa won't catch measles because of the vaccinations they provide, and hundreds of babies will live past birth because of the medical training for midwives and nurses in keeping the babied alive just by teaching them how to get them to breathe right away, all done by volunteers, no one is paid. I guess that just is too much for the government to allow.
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Oh the Profanity!

Pat1859 Wrote: Jun 14, 2013 12:59 AM
The current common use of profanity is just showing that you have a very small vocabulary and are unable to express yourself as a competent adult with a wide use of words. The English language is one of the largest and most expressive languages, yet we think that lowering it to a gutter level is showing how much of a cool or popular person you are, but it only shows what a lack of ability to express yourself in a competent way you have. The old TV show 'Mash' featured Colonel Potter and his colorful language and you understood when he said 'cow pies' or other unusual terms, just what he meant, but he wasn't crude but creative. Too bad some of our current writers can't get their minds out of the gutter and start to use their brains for something new and 'gasp' uplifting. Teach our children to use their minds and not just follow the crowd.
How many Muslims will be reprimanded for reading the Koran or praying 5 times a day?? How many atheists will gloat when the Chaplin is removed or reprimanded? How soon will all Christian hymns be forbidden at any type of ceremony, and don't even think about a prayer. How can such a small minority take over the traditions and beliefs that have made our country great? Do we remember that our country was peopled many years ago by those wanting religious freedom, freedom to worship as they believed, not as the government allowed. How and why are we allowing this to happen to this great land of liberty??
What the FFRF is trying to do is to establish a new 'religion', atheism, enforced by the courts. This 'religion' teaches that there is no God, anything you want to do is OK, there are no moral standards to worry about, life is not sacred so killing anything unwanted is fine, truth is just what you want it to be, prayer is disgusting and to be obliterated, and we just do what we want to do without someone telling us it may be a sin because with no God there is no sin. All religion is trying to do is keep us from being happy doing what we want to do. If we can first establish it in the military by eliminating Chaplains and forbidding Bibles or other religious books, then start in the schools to be sure the children grow up knowing that they can do whatever they want, it won't be long until we look like some of the older cultures with no religion at all. But somehow it is funny that in almost all cultures of the world, including some of the most brutal ever seen, there is some kind of Religion and it ok's whatever they want to do.
What in the world are they doing with a 2010 Tweet? What in the world are they doing with ANY tweet? How can a person be offended by a bumper sticker on a car, presumably in a designated parking area? Why can people now run around looking for ways to be offended and get people who may not agree with them in trouble. Pretty soon we will be dictated to by anyone who is offended by anything. It looks like Pandora's box has been opened by those who are easily offended and desire to see that no one can do or say anything that may be offensive to anyone. Speech police anyone???
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The New Axis

Pat1859 Wrote: Jun 11, 2013 1:08 AM
How can the military get away with openly defying the Constitution? "Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITINNG THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF". Obama and many other groups are set out to "fundamentally change the United States", he said it openly but people didn't listen and understand just what he had in mind, and so with the help of people that don't what he is and what he stands for, he is doing it. The Constitution means nothing to him, it is just something in his way, so he ignores it and then gets away with his plans.
The last sentence says it all!
Has the FFRF many members, as compared with the Christian population? I don't think so, so why are they able to change the traditions and values of the rest of us. I am offended by many things going on today, but that is my problem and I don't try to change things for the rest of the people. If an opening prayer is to be given and a person finds it so offensive, ear plugs, coming late, transistor radios or CD players that can broadcast anti religious materials, or other creative devices or plans can be incorporated to be sure that no religious language, except for cussing of course, falls on their tender ears of the FFRF without changing things for the majority of us.
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Father: Feminism's Four Letter Word

Pat1859 Wrote: Jun 05, 2013 12:15 PM
When society started telling young girls that sex whenever you feel like it is good, society changed. The girls thought it was great, and the boys even greater, and the surge of 'single mothers' began. The boys can get away with no responsibility and the girls and their children bear the burden. No one demands that fathers take responsibility for their actions, the girls and their children can just go on welfare and survive as best they can, which generally isn't as well as children with 2 parents. The status of 'father' should be elevated and respected and men should begin again to feel proud to be a father and teach their sons the same. Men should be the examples and mentors of their children and be a part of their lives. They shouldn't be able to go around and create children and brag about it, but not be in their lives. Our children are our future and what kind of a future will they be able to see if they are thought about only as a burden, not loved and cherished by both parents. '
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My Apology to Mormon Readers

Pat1859 Wrote: Jun 05, 2013 11:56 AM
It's amazing that in all the examples of Joseph Smith as a womanizer, there is no evidence of any children by him, except with his wife Emma, and they had 11 but only 6 lived to maturity.
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