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Detroit Schools Spending Blues: Contracts That Bind

Pat1392 Wrote: May 12, 2012 10:30 AM
When you have taught in the pulic schools, and this one in particular, you realize that it may seem easy to remedy these situations but it is not. There are many personnel running around that district with high salaries and not really teaching kids. Everyone wants out of the classroom, and once they get out, they want to work for the union. Having 35 desks and 45 students put 10 on the floor or better yet, the windowsills. Then after a month we re-organize, different kids etc. It is not the teachers ---it is the administrators. As for those sick days --I will take them -no amount of money is worth the stress not to use them. There is not much on the desks but in personal checking accounts. That little longevity pay,100 bucks, is simply
restoreliberty Wrote: May 12, 2012 1:53 PM
The problem with your argument is that when localities advocate for cutting administrative positions or perks, the teachers suddenly pop up defending the administrators. The nature of a collective entity is for all individuals in the collective to stand together to fight any reforms. I live in a right to work state and this strategy still plays out here with teachers and administrators. The only hope for educational outcomes is to let parents take their tax dollars to schools of their choice. Let educators invest in opening their own schools and competing for students.
Jims Jab Wrote: May 12, 2012 11:07 AM
Bull dung, the teachers and the unions are the problem. Teachers haven't taken any responsibility for anything. It is either the administrations fault or the parents or the kids. I don't blame the teachers for taking advantage of what the unions can get for them anymore than I blame any American for taking advantage of tax loopholes. My position is that all the sweet perks and loopholes shouldn't be available they are choking the life out of our great nation. I also disagree that it is not easy to remedy the situation in schools. If teachers are held accountable for doing the job they are paid to do things will change.
MoreFreedom Wrote: May 12, 2012 10:47 AM
You say it's the administrators, not the teachers. Government administers the schools.

End the government school monopoly. Then administrators, and teachers, will earn their money the same way we all do. By satisfying our customers who can choose another provider if they want to. We don't have a choice with the government school monopoly.

When Detroit Public Schools were assigned an emergency financial manager by the state, we thought he would have the power to turn things around, more or less, with a snap of his fingers.

Turns out that’s not the case, due in large part to a thick document known as a teachers contract, or collective bargaining agreement. In Detroit (and most other school districts across the nation) these documents contain seemingly mundane provisions that cost taxpayers and school districts millions of dollars.

Those provisions have been sucking a lot money out of Detroit Public Schools, a cash-starved district that can’t afford...