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New Akin Ad: Look, I'm Really Sorry

paranoidmystic Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:15 PM
What an amazing gift these fools are handing to the democrats. I guess the best part is that these aren't gaffes - just verbal admissions of what the extreme end of the pro-life camp believe. It's incredible that the national conversation has shifted in this direction.
Buck O Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:26 PM
Don't worry, fistic. It will shift back soon enough.
Brent12883 Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:20 PM
This guy believes that you can't get pregnant by rape. For this idiocy he should be kicked out of the GOP. Who cares what idiocy the Dems support, it has no relationship to this guy.
paranoidmystic Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:28 PM
Brent, his belief is shared by many in the extreme pro-life camp, as well as notions that the definition is rape is currently too broad.

It's great that he actually said these things out loud, but in truth groups like the FRC have been saying them for a long time.
Brent12883 Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:29 PM
There are idiots on both sides....I once took an ecological economics class for my MBA and had some ecology majors telling me that infanticide wasn't wrong.

Idiots are not a Republican or Democrat thing. (Although I would say there are more on the left)
RepubRob2 Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:36 PM
Can you produce proof of this? I have not heard one single voice supporting this belief. Not single everyday Joe on talk radio...let alone any elected official or representative of a legitimate advocacy group.
paranoidmystic Wrote: Aug 21, 2012 2:43 PM
RepubRob, are you a social conservative with an extreme pro-life position?

Because if you were, you would surely have heard this argument.

Here's an essay, with footnotes worth following:

It lays out the argument as I've heard it from childhood. First, that you should punish the rapist, not the unborn fetus. Second, that rapes rarely if ever cause pregnancy due to reactions in the female body during the trauma, hence that rape is brought up by pro-choice folks to make pro-life folks look insensitive.

This is actually the position of the hardline pro-lifer. Not some gaffe or mistake on Akin's part.

This ad is called "forgiveness:"

No one actually believes that Todd Akin is pro-rape.  His problem is that he spouted off biologically false nonsense and used the term "legitimate rape" while discussing the subject on television.  This suggests that Akin is either terribly misinformed, profoundly ill-equipped to run a competent Senate campaign, or not especially bright.  Or perhaps some combination of the three.  When one is forced to begin a political ad with a "clarification" that "rape is an evil act," one is in very...