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Free Trade Cheats Americans

para_dimz Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 9:45 AM
The Free Trade movement wasn't about helping the U.S. It was about creating new customers all over the world. Africa will be next if they get their way. It was assumed that the past would repeat and like the loss of buggy whip makers, street light lighters, blacksmiths and steam boat captains something new would come along to replace those jobs. Further, those jobs would be a good fit for the type persons who were well fitted to the obsolete jobs. It was a religious like statement of faith that the economy would provide. It hasn't happened and is not likely to do so in the forseeable future. Not to mention "Free Trade" is a chimera. It doesn't exist. Reference the rules and regulations in the Korea treaty mentioned in this article.
BobIsBob Wrote: Jan 29, 2013 1:36 PM
You lose sight of the time factor.

Manufacturing is and from the late 1700s has been about replacing manual labor with machines. Today this is Automation. Prior to the late 1700's the majority of people were farmers living just barely above a subsistence level. The Industrial Revolution, early on made it possible for a farmer to produce more for the same labor effort. This led to a large throng of former farmers flocking to cities. These are the people who staffed the factories, but, doing that took a generation.

In 1790, 80% of Americans were living an agrarian life. Small farms were the rule. In 1950, less than 20% were farming. The majority, close to 60% worked in factories. In 2010, just over 10% were working in farming. In. . .
BobIsBob Wrote: Jan 29, 2013 1:41 PM
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In Manufacturing, in 2010, only about 30% are working in manufacturing. That number will continue to decline. However, the total output in farming is higher than it has ever been. The total output in manufacturing is only a little below where it's high was, and is climbing. Yes, a lot of jobs have moved in manufacturing to other countries, but more of them have been eliminated by using different manufacturing techniques. That trend is only going to continue. The next generation of factories will only need about 2/3 as many workers.

This will free up the economy to use the extra workers in doing things that cannot be done today, but, doing that will take time. That's just as it was in the past, too.
BobIsBob Wrote: Jan 29, 2013 1:43 PM
The grandson of the Buggy Whip Maker became an airline pilot, something his father didn't believe was possible. It wasn't possible when a horse was the fastest way to travel.

I wonder what the grandson of the automobile assembly line worker will become?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 10:49 AM
Actually, on the third planet from our sun (as opposed to the second hallucination to the left), the free trade movement has always been about the betterment of everyone. That politicians frequently pervert it and include all sorts of regulations while still calling it free trade is not a problem with the movement or the concept itself. That free trade has always (in every case, without exception) resulted in MORE and HIGHER PAYING jobs than the alternative is not an "assumption" or "religious faith"; it is "empirical history". The claim that "it hasn't happened" is called "ignorance".
The re-election of Barack Obama hasn't done anything to make more jobs available to Americans, and there is no indication that it will. America now has 23 million people who want a full-time job but can't find one.

Obama doesn't think American citizens or businessmen create jobs. His Jobs Czar, Jeffrey Immelt, recently said on a television interview referring to China, where he has outsourced General Electric's light bulb plants, "state-run Communism may not be your cup of tea, but their government works."

In his first presidential debate last year, Obama claimed that passage of free trade agreements with South...