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GOP Could Use the Whiskey the Tea Party Drinks

pamela247 Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 2:51 PM
Obama received about 62 million votes. 11% less than in 2008. He is loosing his popularity. America is no longer enamored with him. Romney received 3.3 million less votes. that's hardly a landslide. American families making less than $30,000 a year broke big for Obama 62% to 35%. Obama said he would not raise taxes except on the rich. The really rich don't pay taxes. So, how many of you liberals saw less money in your first paycheck in January? How's that working out for ya?
wiseone Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:10 PM
I'm told Obama got less than 51% of the popular vote.

In 2004, when George W Bush got just under 51% of the vote, liberals Democrats went around saying "51% is not a mandate."

They left out the part that says "...unless the Democrat gets the 51%.
conservative_one Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:20 PM
"Obama is a creation of and is relentlessly propped up by a media machine that demonizes his opposition, while hiding his own flaws, and glorifying his every breath."
ericynot Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:25 PM
wise,

BO got 51.4% in 2012, which is considerably better than the 47.8% Bush got in 2000 (Gore out-polled him by 543,816 votes).
Don't Tread On Me3 Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:28 PM
When a Dem wins by 50%+1 & didn't do a darn thing in the campaign except make happytalk, (s)he is considered to have an open-ended mandate to push whatever statist leftist radicalism is on the Demmie agenda.

Let a Republican win by a landslide after making specific promises, & the pundits & sorehead Demmies will squawk that the electorate didn't really want or expect the Repub to keep his promises.
Don't Tread On Me3 Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:30 PM
As they did for Clinton, & tried to do for Gore & Kerry. Ozone Man & Lurch the Ketchup Gigilo were a bit much for even the lo-info electorate to swallow, seemingly.
talltexanoilfieldtrash Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:30 PM
out-polled does not mean they were voters. merely loose people being interviewed.
wiseone Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:31 PM
Dodging the point again, aren't you. I wasn't citing Bush in 2000 nor was I (or Bush) claiming that Bush had a "mandate" in either 2000 or 2004.

Answer the charge that has actually been made. Explain why 51.4% is a mandate for Obama when your side claimed 50.8% was not a mandate for Bush in 2004.

While you're at it you can try to explain why a guy who had to cook the numbers to claim unemployment was 'only' 7.8% under his watch gets this mandate and the guy who had unemployment around 4.7% does not.
ericynot Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:42 PM
wise,

Sounds more like a whine than a charge. Both sides do it.

Besides, I didn't vote for Obama, so it ain't "my side". My side is whoever I think will best handle the economy, which at this point in time is neither of the two major parties.

wiseone Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:48 PM
IOW, you have no effective refutation.

Both sides don't do it. When did you ever hear or see the GOP saying Obama has no mandate. The GOP didn't even say that when Clinton won in 1992 with only 43% of the vote. The GOP respects the Constitution, the rule of law, and the results of elections.

You are the whiner. You lost in 2000 and you'll NEVER get past it.
yachtsman388 Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:54 PM
Geeze, they have ONE election stolen from them and never stop whining about it.
wiseone Wrote: Jan 07, 2013 3:58 PM
Read "At Any Cost" by Bill Sammon and then tell me who tried to steal what in November of 2000.

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