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All that Ammo

PaddyL Wrote: Apr 28, 2013 6:15 PM
Of course he is, Chilidog. Like all Libs, he is either ignorant or attempting to deflect the investigation of DHS' ammo purchases. Informed people (gun users) know that police and others use hollow point bullets out of safety concerns. Metal jacketed bullets over penetrate, that is go through people, walls and other barriers, and pose a danger from richotche. Hollow point bullets mushroom and usually stop at the point of impact.
Jeff_Georgia Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 10:58 AM
Momentum has more to do with penetration than energy or velocity (though velocity is a component of both energy and momentum).

That's the main reason the 100+ year old .45 has such an excellent reputation as a man killer, even with the inefficient full metal jacket bullets used by the military.
Jeff_Georgia Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 10:54 AM
I'm not sure why the prohibition in hunting. Softpoints and hollowpoints aren't that much different in action. Hollowpoints as a class probably expand a bit more than softpoints, thus penetrating a bit less for a given momentum, but it seems too close for practical differences.
FLN8TIVE Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 3:51 AM
That is incorrect.While the make up of a bullet certainly will affect penetration,what determines penetration more is velocity,which is controlled by caliber & the amount of powder.For example , a .45ACP travels between 600 to 800 feet per second and rifle round,like 5.56/.223(AR-15) travels between 2500 t0 3000 feet per second.The rifle round has a much higher velocity so it penetrates farher.All are capable of killing.
Gary23 Wrote: Apr 28, 2013 7:20 PM
Hollow point bullets do not stop at the point of impact. They mushroom as the penetrate. Any hunter that uses them knows this. (If they stopped at point of impact, there would only be a flesh wound.)
Most states do not allow hollow points for hunting. Most bullets are lead tipped with copper jackets and a lead core. They mushroom and penetrate, sometimes going through if they don't hit a bone or organs that slow it down.

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