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No One is Born Gay

oscar77 Wrote: Sep 09, 2014 2:03 PM
I would suggest that you again read the statement from the American Psychological Association that states, "There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors." That seems to be a reality statement, a statement about what currently exists. Brown only agrees with it. You are the one arguing from lack of evidence. Not Brown. While evidence might be found for a genetic cause next week, or next month, or next year, you are the one hoping for it, and providing unfounded assurances that it must exist because you wish it to. REALITY, today, would reflect that it hasn't been found. Period. And we are making public policy and social boundaries based on the unfounded assumption that it DOES exist. That is what many of us object to.
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No One is Born Gay

oscar77 Wrote: Sep 09, 2014 1:55 PM
I have a copy of Kolb's "Modern Clinical Psychiatry" in which homosexuality is listed as a "personality disorder".
"He encourages Christians to treat LGBT people with decency, but still see them as flawed". This is no different from the way Christians are to treat ANYONE. Everyone is flawed. He is not stating something revolutionary here. It is not a "double standard" at all, if one accepts Biblical Christianity, because that is what the Bible teaches. Please demonstrate one single text in the Bible that tells us that ANYONE is "unflawed".
"Homophobia" : "Hatred" of homosexuals. Disagreement with the lifestyle doesn't equal hatred. Disagreement with the many erroneous statements put forward by homosexuals doesn't equal hatred. Not desiring your children to be around homosexuality doesn't equal hatred.
"All Science" doesn't. References, please.
Chapter and verse, please.
So did Luxemburg, proportionally. But we never say that Luxemburg won the wars. His statement is only true in that Britain was one of the allies, and the allies won the war.
Don't be a jerk. If abortion is to be done, it is not a liberal sacrament or a religion, no matter how much you Marxists try to make it one. States have the right to ensure quality healthcare in their borders. So under what theory do you claim that abortion clinics shouldn't have to be operated under quality standards set by the state government?
What was overturned was a law that required abortion clinics to be as medically competent as surgical centers. Why do you object to that? Are you in favor of poor medicine?
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An Open Letter to the False Church

oscar77 Wrote: Aug 25, 2014 6:05 PM
If you actually read it, Barber didn't call them anything. He was quoting from the Book of 2 Peter regarding "false prophets". He also didn't specifically identify anyone, did he? Condemn Barber for what he said, if you can. But not from what he didn't say.
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