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Did Freedom Win?

Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 2:08 PM
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: 31 minutes ago (1:22 PM) OldMexican: I have a couple of moral dilemmas as a died in the wool libertarian. The most consequential is abortion. As a young man, having graduated high school the year Roe v. Wade happened, it seemed evident that a women had a right to dispose of her body as she saw fit. The realization that she is killing another person came to me much later. But, dang, it's still her body. Another is the private sector section of the Civil Rights Act. You know, the one that Rand Paul got in so much trouble over. What if I don't like old Mexicans? I am still, as a businessman, compelled to associate with them. Now as a businessman, I know it's stupid not to sell my wares to old Mexicans, but should I...
Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 2:09 PM
As a libertarian you probably subscribe to the non aggression principle.

Taking another life because it through no fault of it's own found itself in your body is aggression. That person didn't ask to be put there, indeed is only there because of you're actions.

There are plenty of libertarians who absolutely do not believe in abortion.

Presenting the pro-life case to libertarians, and the libertarian case to pro-lifers

msnider Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 3:32 PM
And then there are many libertarians like myself that absolutely do believe in abortion, mainly because I feel that there are way to many people in our country and the world. I don't get into the right or wrong of taking a life on this issue. I personally do not like 7 or 8th month abortions but other than that..................Anyhow abortion needs not to be a polictal issue as it divides us. If anything it needs to be a states issue.
nawlins72 Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 3:57 PM
"I don't get into the right or wrong of taking a life on this issue."

Interesting. May I ask on what do you base your concept of liberty?
Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 4:02 PM
Inquiring minds want to know.......
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 4:43 PM
Originalist: Spent a little time on the LFL website, and can't give a rational argument against their stand. I truly don't like being pragmatic in a philosophical argument, but if my daughter was raped, even though the child is innocent, I would want that spawn of Satan removed from her womb. And the rapist would know my fury!
Talk to me about my refusal to serve Old Mexican in my diner.
Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 6:40 PM
In my opinion, you have that right. It would make you a rather stupid business person, but government should not be able to dictate who you can do business with.

I can direct you here and hope it helps....
Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 6:42 PM
Ps, I have two grown daughters myself and know just how you feel. Alternately, I also know someone who is a product of rape and is very grateful to be alive.
Democrats won big last week. So government will continue to grow. Individual freedom will yield.

At least some people with records of supporting liberty were elected: Sen. Jeff Flake in Arizona and U.S. Reps. Justin Amash and Kerry Bentivolio in Michigan and Thomas Massie in Kentucky.

Also, Washington and Colorado voted to allow any adult to use marijuana. (But users beware. Your newfound freedom may be short-lived thanks to that extraordinary human being in the White House -- you know, the one who smoked pot when he was in school. Despite promising that he wouldn't, he has cracked down on pot...