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Joycey.. Ditch digging today is done by equipment costing upward of 750 grand. The operators earn 55.00 per hour plus 36.00 dollars in benefits. An experienced ditch digger can easily earn 80 grand in 9 months. So hamburger flipper is a better metaphor today.
If you are not willing to put yourself out for that than you don't deserve the help.
Nope, you got it right. This is the kind of thinking that got us where we are now, with the substandard performance by the teachers accepted as the norm.
bs.. If the teachers would do their jobs right, the kids would get the education plus some, what they are getting in todays 2 year community college. In Europe at age 18 you are out of trade school and ready for a useful apprentice program. If not you are ready for a college or university.
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This Is “Forward”?

Optimista Wrote: 13 hours ago (2:20 PM)
Let's not forget Obamas father, after dumping his mom and him, went on to Moscow to complete his education. So he is working on the dreams of his father. Could it be that both Michelle and Valerie are his wifes ?
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Government Housing is a Bad Idea

Optimista Wrote: 17 hours ago (11:11 AM)
Mr.Paul.. You can't change the ghetto culture without changing the Democratic Political Crime Syndicate culture. Democratic Politicians are evil and sinister about helping these people. They need them on the plantation where they can be exploited for their votes.
Sea.. PC is unamerican go for it.
Taft here is a math problem for you to solve. According to the Obama administration unemployment is at 5.6%, approximately 18 Millon Americans. Then how come we still have 47 million on foodstamps and are feeding everyone kids lunches in school?
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An Iran Deal Is Nothing To Fear

Optimista Wrote: Jan 25, 2015 3:17 PM
And what alternate universe you dwell in Paolo. The evidence for Irans world wide terrorism activity and sponsorship has been documented for years. All of the roadside bombs blowing up our boys both in Iraq and Afghanistan were manufactured in Iran. BTW could you please tell me what a neocon is? I have been a conservative all my life and I am 71. Does that make me and ancientcon? No conservative I have ever known advocated for war. You guys with your labels are getting rather tiresome.
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An Iran Deal Is Nothing To Fear

Optimista Wrote: Jan 25, 2015 3:00 PM
Corbett.. The idiot is you my friend for your uninformed stupid post. Just whose side are you on anyway? This is not a political football This is the dawn of a potential nuclear war in the Mideast. If we err I just as soon have it in our favor not against us. Iran has refused to allow inspectors in. It never happened. Nada, no, nix, noway. And the most disturbing thing is that Obama lied about it. That is treasonous in my book. That is the most disturbing about this entire issue. One must be a suicidal idiot to deal with the biggest terrorist sponsor in the world without physically verifying every nut and bolt.
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