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Who are these idiots? Good grief, suppose they take ALL the legally manufactured and sold guns and left the law-abiding population totally unarmed. Didn't these nut cases ever hear of Zip guns (improvised firearms)? I am sure they have heard of IED's (improvised explosive devices) at some point in their lives. For many years, the weapon of choice was the Zip gun in many forms because they were easy to construct, easy to hide, usually untraceable -- but dangerous as heck to the victim. Similar to that the guy said in Jurassic Park ("Life will find a way") then thugs, like a large percentage of politicians it seems, will find a way to give themselves the advantage and 'fairness' be damned.
Now let's see. Following Hurricane Katrina, didn't the Ray Nagin, Mayor of New Orleans, use all the armed force he could muster -- police, National Guard and even US Marshals - to invade homes and confiscate as many guns as he could in addition to taking guns from those seeking refuge, and wasn't that followed by a series of murders and massive lootings often by the police? In my mind, that is what happens when the crooks -- street or government employed -- are sure there will be no armed opposition from their victims. Of course, three years later -- as a result of charges being brought by NRA and others -- the courts declared 'confiscations' to be illegal even 'unconstitutional'. Recently, Mr. Nagin -- a very vocal advocate of removing and punishing corrupt politicians and bureaucrats - was convicted of accepting bribes of material and money in exchange for some of contracts that were 'awarded' for the rebuilding of New Orleans after Katrina. So, as we listen to the noise of gun-grabbers of today, we should wonder just who and what they are REALLY wanting to 'protect'
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OldTimer Wrote: Apr 16, 2014 9:11 AM
There WERE omissions fin the PDF of PL 110-246, so one must do some end-around research. PL110-234 was the first passed BUT HAD SOME STUFF LEFT OUT THAT DEMOCRATS WANTED IN SO, THEY REPEALED PL110-234 -- AND IT WAS REPLACED BY PL110-246. BOTH bills were vetoed by President Bush and both were overridden. There is a 'history' on this law and as with most things coming from Congress, researching can be VERY confusing. The final 'Bill' and history can be found at: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.06124:
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Tax Refund Siezure

OldTimer Wrote: Apr 16, 2014 8:13 AM
A nearly 700 page law (PL 110-234 Sec. 14219) with the provision found on page 561. http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb1045988.pdf
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OldTimer Wrote: Apr 16, 2014 8:09 AM
I did not check the vote count on the bill either time, but keep in mind that it was the Democrat controlled 110th Congress (House and Senate) that passed the bill initially and which (both House and Senate) voted to override the veto by President Bush.
My research indicates that the law was passed in 2008 by the Democrat controlled House and Senate, vetoed by President Bush and over-ridden by both the House and Senate. A nearly 700 page law (PL 110-234 Sec. 14219) with the provision found on page 561. http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb1045988.pdf
Whether they can be properly called 'prophecies', I won't say, but the promised benefits and low cost of most 'government programs' have an extremely low 'fulfillment rate often the results were more devastating than beneficial -- and usuallt spawned more of the same with basically the same or worse outcome.
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The Color of Georgia

OldTimer Wrote: Apr 10, 2014 10:08 AM
While I don't have information on ALL the areas where 'Democrats rule', it is pretty clear that Democrats are generally in favor of three (3) things -- 1. EVERYONE dependent on 'government' ; 2. 'government' controlled by Democrat liberal/progressives and 3. only those opinions 'approved' by Democrat liberal/progressives are 'free speech'.
Addressing this once more, it took a while for me to recall what I was thinking and I now remember that I was thinking that while this was going on in the colonies, Capt. James Cook was exploring and was killed in Hawaii. Somehow 'James' managed to find its way to my typing fingers.
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