Re: Andy544, -- It's all about the illegal aliens and what THEY want, isn't, OldMexican? -- It's all about the MARKET and what it wants, Andy. Employers and immigrants. We are ALL born free to choose. I don't care what YOU want, it's irrelevant to me. only care about not trampling over YOUR right to life, freedom or property, but about your feelings - I couldn't care less. You're a big boy.

Re: Kevin 354, -- One might think it the purpose of our government to establish and deliver human rights -- And then there are those like us who believe humans are BORN with those rights, given to us by our Creator and thus unalienable. Like the right to freedom of action, life and property. In other words: Government ain't God.

Re: usmcpgw, -- US Census Bureau 2003 report; 30.6% Hispanics vs. 9% other received means tested government benefits (welfare, healthcare, food stamps). -- How many of those Hispanics were illegal immigrants, usmcpgw? -- 5+ million cheat the government out of over $35 Billion a year in income taxes. -- That LOW? I would've expected there would be more people not letting the government grab their own money. Unless you want to be a Progressive and tell me that the money belongs to the governmnet. Please, go ahead and argue that - pretty, please!

Re: ryoung292, -- All "Rights" must be waived in time of WAR and America has been at War for quite sometime now! -- We're in a crisis! It's 1933(*) all over again! (*) Germany

Re: loadstar, -- MOST businesses would NEVER employ ILLEGAL aliens -- REALLY? So what's your worry? -- which is partly why unemployment is highest among the unskilled and low-skilled displaced by 10 million ILLEGALS working here. -- What a load of rubbish. You're an economics ignoramus. The reason for the high levels of unemployment has to do with government FUNDING of unemployment and the high cost to hire, but not because illegals "steal" jobs. They weren't stealing jobs back in the 80s, the 90s and during the Bush years and they're certainly not doing it now.

Re: loadstar, -- ILLEGALS steal unskilled jobs -- Listen, you economics-illiterate: There's NO fixed pool of jobs. Those jobs you say they "steal" belong to the EMPLOYER, not to some employee by virtue of his birth. It is the employer's money; it is HIS building, HIS machines, HIS capital - HIS. Not YOURS. -- Indeed, the myriad social burdens ILLEGALS place on communities hurt EVERYBODY in Middle America by draining social services and running up taxpayer-funded costs. -- This is a damned LIE. Those social burdens you talk about are a myth. More crime is committed by American citizens than by illegal aliens, who by their own nature maintain a LOW PROFILE. You're nothing but an unabashed bigot, loadstar. Nothing more than that

-- Above all, we need to look at immigration laws in terms of how they affect the American people and the American culture that gives us a prosperity that has long been among the highest in the world. -- Mr. Sowell, as an economist, wouldn't you think that immigrants would find the same culture that's bringing them prosperity to be something to embrace? Wouldn't you think that if they did not find the culture acceptable, they would leave?

Re: Marie150, -- But how many dumb masses are caring about La RAZA -- You mean besides some clueless Chicanos and white liberals? I don't think many, Mary.

Re: Guywithaheart, -- And we know what that means - segregation, discrimination, Jim Crow, etc, etc. -- "Pro-pot laws, pro-gay marriage laws... I tell you, this federalism thingy is pure chaos! Chaos!" Oooops!

Re: MatthewlovesAyn, -- I don't want immigrants that don't believe in the American way, but we have to return to that American way or we look like hypocrites. -- Unforutnately, that boat sailed long time ago.

Re: loadstar, Ok, and? What's the point of quoting polls, loadstar? What does that have to do with anything? Whatever people tell pollsters is not argument for the imposition of policies that affect human rights (liberty, life and property).