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Union Vultures on the Prowl

OL1 Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 1:15 PM
Your ignorance of people who work for a living is endless.
MadisonWannabe Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 2:27 PM
If you are trying to say that union employees actually work compared to a non union worker, you are sadly mistaken. The situation is even worse in the government sector where unions have managed to purchase their own Senators and now even a president. These people do not work, and can't be removed no matter how incompetent they are. In the private sector when wages and etc push prices out of sight, the union members respond by boycotting the union made product and purchase non union. It is not rocket science, yet you do not seem to understand. Gov employees have the power of government to force you to pay them for a poor work ethic.
Zervas Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 9:37 PM

You are so wrong, if supervisor would do their job and document either, poor performance or conduct, conduct is easier, they could remove the worker who is not producing easier that it is in the private sector.

The private sector can strike to keep the employee working it is called solidarity, were as federal employees cannot. But the premise you state is not the union fault, I blame the supervisor for allowing this to happen and if they would just take the time to document correctly they could and would have a better work force. I
MadisonWannabe Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 8:17 AM
Perhaps I should not have said "can't be removed". The process is so difficult as to be nearly impossible. It is complicated by the fact that supervisors are not held accountable to any degree either. The process is much swifter in non union private sector work where a non performing employee is essentially replaced by the customer. In essence, prices are driven up by laziness, inefficiency, and sloppiness. A rude uncaring employee will also send the customer down the road. These people seem to settle in jobs where a union protects them. This is usually in government where their is no direct and immediate repercussions for their actions. It is also why, for example, that some large cities are paying teachers to not teach ..............
MadisonWannabe Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 8:37 AM
.............while being investigated or waiting for trial for criminal activity. In non protected private sector these people are replaced because they run up the price that you, the customer will not pay. When the government wants more money to pay these people they pass a law and take it from you. As an employee, you should not have a right to a lifelong job, especially if you do not perform. As an employer, why should you pay someone who is not doing the job? How would it work for a football team to have a player that can not run?

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