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Immigration Sophistry

of mice n glen Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 10:38 AM
The problem in the U.S. today is that the redistribution of our wealth has caused over $16 trillion in debt. I propose open borders if the Latino community would support the abolition of the welfare state programs. Socialism is not an American idea. It is shameful that the leadership in Washington embraces it.
goldilocks Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 6:30 PM
if socialism is not an American idea,

then where did it come from
Judy S Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 10:52 AM
The $16 trillion debt was caused by obama and his non functioning brain. Looking at it another way...his sweetening way with all his ghastly "friends".
loadstar Wrote: Apr 17, 2013 11:06 AM
Why does that $16T sound so familiar?!
With the Great Society, we have surely created a "permanent entitlement culture"...we have squandered some $16 TRILLION on the the so-called "War On Poverty"...our "po people" are the envy of the world!

Meanwhile, social pathologies among the so-called poor SOARED even as we mortgaged America transferring wealth to them--> proclivities to crime, drugs, clinging to Spanish, gangs, dropouts, fatherless homes, illegitimacy's, and ghetto/barrio blight.

The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area remains the percentage of the area population that is black and Hispanic...check out other sobering facts about social pathologies by ethnicity here:
Most laws are meant to stop people from doing something, and to penalize those who disregard those laws. More generally, laws are meant to protect the society from the law breakers.

But our immigration laws are different. Here the whole focus is on the "plight" of those who have broken the laws, and on what can be done to lift the stigma and ease the pressures they feel, so that they can "come out of the shadows" and "normalize" their lives.

Merely using the word "illegal" to describe their breaking the law is considered to be a sign of mean-spiritedness, if not racism....