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The Need for Semi-Automatic "Assault" Weapons

NV1 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:43 AM
I'm a conservative and gun advocate, but I still can't buy the rationale for owning an assault rifle on the outside chance that I live though a complete breakdown of society. Best thing for home defense is a combination of a sign in front of your house stating that you have an alarm system along with a dog that has a loud bark. Burglars will just go to the next house. Best home defense weapon is a sawed-off shotgun. I can take out a whole room in 5 seconds or less.
cambeul41 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:25 AM
Actually, the shot-spread of a shotgun is not very wide within the space of a room; and, surprisingly, the .223/5.56 round is less likely to over penetrate, so that would be my choice if I were to buy a defensive long gun. But if you like shotguns, go for one.

Might I also add that to some of us your use of the term "assault rifle," presumably applied to a semi-auto,, sounds like you have swallowed a bit of the KoolAid.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:57 AM
Gun advocates are not usually so ignorant as to use the meaningless term "assault rifle". There is no such thing as an assault rifle. It's a coined term to enlist the aid of the ignorant in the ignoble effort to disarm the people.
Tactical shotgun yes; sawn off shotgun, no. You really do need to be able to aim.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:59 AM
Of, course, what weapon to use is an individual choice. Neither you nor I have the right to impose that choice. Neither does the government.
alex372 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:54 AM
An AR-15 is NOT an assault weapon. It is a semi-automatic rifle, that looks super macho, period!
Assault weapons are only available to military and law enforcement.
Stop the nonsense
Seawolf Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:11 AM
So you are saying we should roll over and allow them to ban or confiscate semi-autos.? How about shotguns, semi auto's out, pumps OK? Handguns... revolvers OK semi-s no..what's next, fixed ammo out, black powder OK camels nose anyone? Shall not be infringed...PERIOD.
Seawolf Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:54 AM
Give an inch on what we allow them to designate as "assault weapons" and everything will become an assault weapon and be confiscated. Never allow the enemy to define the battlefield.
Fooling Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:16 AM
AMEN! Brilliant! I agree . . . and that is why we need new GOP leadership or vote Libertarian or Constitutional Party!

Boehner rolls over, heck, the whole GOP ROLLS OVER!

Take control of the verbal terrain, stop lettting the LEFT win the day all day long with its lies!
Fooling Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:52 AM
Madcap. The press is defining assault rifles based on their LOOKS not on their performance. You are buying into it. If you are a gun advocate, then you have to learn more about this.

I agree about the shotgun. But in a free society, that is a FREE choice we make. Others may prefer the scary looking rifles (though the click of a shotgun will freak attackers out as well).

Please get familiar with the term assault rifle so that you can more effectively stand up for your rights on this issue. Thank you!
dweimaraner Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:49 AM
agreed. that is common sense.
Otho Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:49 AM
Please tell me the functional difference between your "assault rifle" and any other semi-automatic rifle.
dweimaraner Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 9:53 AM
an assault rifle has high cap mag, high vel. projos, short barrels, straight trajectories compared to hunting rounds like 30-30 and is designed for close quarter battle. a semi auto hunting rifle has long barrels, slow projos, slopping trags and low capacity.
Otho Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:00 AM
BZZZZZZT!! Wrong, but thanks for playing! I've watched a video of a man taking a regular hunting rifle (semi-automatic) and changing out the stock and handguards and VOILA! it's an assault rifle! No change in functionality at all. It's all appearances. One pull on the trigger, one round downrange, another round automatically loaded in the chamber awaiting another pull of the trigger. Almost every handgun today has the same functionality, every "hunting rifle" has the same functionality.
dweimaraner Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:03 AM
that is not t he point. im aware you can modify almost any semi. the point is most folks will not do that.
Cappmann Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:05 AM
Do you have the first clue as to what you are saying? Assuming the term "assault" rifle is legitimate, there is one, and ONLY one criteria for it - IT MUST BE FULLY AUTOMATIC. As for your fast and slow projectiles and flat or sloping trajectories, this is pure nonsense. An M4 fires a .223 (5.56mm) projectile through a 14.5" barrel. A "good" Remington 7400 hunting rifle can fire a .223 (5.56mm) projectile through an 18.5" barrel.
Seawolf Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:06 AM
And it's painted black and looks very scary too...Do you know why the m-16 which by the way is full auto capable whereas what is allowed to civilians is not, is chambered for the .223 and not the slower 30-06 used in the garand?
Cappmann Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:08 AM
Both weapons fire the same projectile (the projectile determines muzzle velocity FYI). A longer barrel provides more range and more accuracy. So the "good" hunting rifle is both more accurate and has longer range (as do most decent hunting rifles) than the "bad" M4 "assault rifle". This entire "debate" is based on emotion and rhetoric. When FACTS are presented, there is no legitimate argument for banning select rifles as "assault" rifles.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 10, 2013 10:13 AM
Which is another way of saying looks are what counts?

By now, we’ve heard the argument about semi-automatic "assault" rifles: nobody needs one. We’ve heard the only reason why someone would obtain this kind of weapon is so they can kill people, which is far from the truth. We’ve also heard the argument from both the Left and the Right that a pistol is how someone protects their home.

"I really don’t know why people need assault weapons. I’m not a hunter but I understand people who want to hunt," Republican Rep. Peter King said on Morning Joe earlier this week. "I understand people who live in rough neighborhoods...