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Of Race, Gender and Justice

Novan Wrote: Jul 17, 2009 11:54 AM
...just excellent. Keep up the good work Ms. Chavez.
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Sunday's Breast

Novan Wrote: Aug 27, 2009 11:56 AM
It's not just the way women dress in Church. Whether inside or outside of Church, women should always endeavor to dress modestly. This goes for when they're in Church, at the burger joint, or at the beach. Women in general struggle to understand the concept of modesty, and it should be up to the elderly Women to teach the younger how to dress and behave in modest fashion. Unfortunately, appreciation and understanding of modestly has become rare and those who are capable teachers are becoming rarer. The best thing that husbands can do is to teach their wives about modesty from the male perspective and encourage them to teach the younger women as such.
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 13, 2009 9:25 AM
Fabius said: "I said that sinners will not enter Heaven. And, I said that Christians are not sinners.
Those two statements are positive statements. Therefore, if you disagree with those statements, the burden of proof is on you to show why you think that they are wrong."

You're correct, those ARE positive statements, therefore the burden of proof is upon you to support them (per my explanation above).
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 10, 2009 4:40 PM
I realize you're probably just a troll but just in case you're not, I'll take this as an opportunity to educate you on something called the "burden of proof". Reasonable people understand that the burden of proof lies on the one making the positive claim. In simple terms this means "if you make the claim, you must support it". You cannot claim something without supporting it and require others to prove the negative. The negative is always assumed to be the default. For example, you can't prove that fairies don't exist. It's up to the person saying that they DO exist to support his claim.
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 6:16 PM
Quite honestly, Fabius, your reasoning is so bizarre and vague, and your position so unusual to me, that I don't know how to respond. You've already been asked twice to support your position with scripture. Before you can request anyone to refute you, you first need to support your position. I already asked you a direct question, "Do you claim not to have sinned at all since the day you became a Christian?", which you avoided answering. That being the case, I'm not sure your worth arguing with.
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 5:10 PM
I know many non-Christians believe in God, but not the Christian God (obviously).
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 5:09 PM
Fabius Cunctator, if you are correct, then we're either all doomed (because we all sin), or somehow sin becomes lawful when you become a Christian (making God a hypocrite). Do you claim not to have sinned at all since the day you became a Christian?
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 3:37 PM
No New Age, it's not that non-Christians aren't moral. Non-Christians can be moral and follow the same moral guidelines that God laid down for all of us. The difference is that Christians have an obligation (to God) to be moral, while Non-Christians do not (since you don't acknowledge God in the first place).
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 3:28 PM
Fabius Cunctator, again, you're mistaken. What saves us is God's grace, not our lack of sin. You are right, if I'm a Christian but continue to sin willfully, without shame or repentance and a desire to change from my sinful ways, then yes, I can no longer consider myself a Christian. But if I'm a Christian who sins in spite of myself, and hates that sin, and confesses his wrongdoing before Christ, we are "in agreement with God", and we are made clean through His grace.
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Riptide: Beware the Deadly Current

Novan Wrote: Jul 09, 2009 2:11 PM
Fabius Cunctator, you're greatly mistaken. Christians are sinners just like non-Christians, but the fact that we are ashamed of our sin and repent, choosing to follow Christ first, we are washed clean by His grace and thus considered clean in His eyes. It's only by this grace that we can be free from sin and look foward to life after death with Him.
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