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The Scandal of the Jewish Pope

Nos Nevets Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 7:11 PM
Who killed Christ? I did.
chipsmydog Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 9:54 PM
Impossible.
He laid his life down at the request of the Father.
Jesus said, "No one takes my life from me. I lay it down of my own accord. I also take my life up again."
If anyone killed Jesus Christ, it would be the Father for the sake of His people. The Father used the Jews and the Romans to accomplish his purposes and will, with the complete and perfect obedience of Jesus, God's only begotten Son.
ElihuE Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 8:26 AM
May I humbly submit that 'love of His elect children, and His intense hatred of sin' killed Y'shua?

Shalom!
ElihuE Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 8:26 AM
May I humbly submit that 'love of His elect children, and His intense hatred of sin' killed Y'shua?

Shalom!
Terminus in WA Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 10:40 AM
While none of us technically killed Christ per se, our sin made it necessary.
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 3:30 PM


Very poor explanation, Chips.

The almighty Father makes no requests; He expects His WILL to be done. since His Holy son does the Father's Will no matter how it alarms and frightens Him; He obeyed the Will of His Father.

He did it as an EXAMPLE to all who would believe in Him. Obedience to God's WILL is the reason for His infinite LOVE for us; Christ's redeemed people. Those who are obedient will go to everlasting life after this life.

dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 3:35 PM


Those who are disobedient reject God's reward of everlasting life. They do not believe Jesus, and subsequently are NOT redeemed.

Almighty God from that point has no choice but to damn them to everlasting pain and sorrow in Hell. There it all is. The story of our salvation isn't so hard to understand. God demands obedience. Jesus was obedient, and was then made Our Redeemer by the Father.



Bondman60 Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 2:22 PM
To those who criticize the Jews as "Christ-killers", I always reply: If the Jews had not had Jesus killed, what would that have meant for the future of Christianity? Could it be that the Jews having Jesus killed was, especially for Christians, part of God's plan?
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 2:52 AM

Dear B,

The Jews weren't Christ-killers as a whole. As a WHOLE they were blameless; if we realise --

Jesus is Himself a circumsized Jew who worshiped in the Temple of Jerusalem. Yet we know Jesus is the Son of the Living God who is true God and True Man. And He is still Jewish. Mary, His Holy mother is Jewish; as well as the holy apostles.

As a Jewish mother would say: "What's not to like about your Jewish heritage??

Charles41 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 9:53 PM
You and me. No one took His life, He gave it. The Father gave Him the authority and was well pleased with His victory over sin and death and the evil one.

One of the first official acts of the newly installed Pope Francis was to reach out to the Jewish community of Rome, as his predecessor Pope Benedict had done, and he is being greeted warmly by many Jewish leaders worldwide. For most of the last 1,500 years, though, Catholic-Jewish relations have not been so warm. In fact, there was a time when the Catholic Church was rocked with a scandal: It was alleged that the Pope himself was Jewish.

But that was almost 1,000 years ago, and the first order of business is to note how well received Pope Francis has...