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The Bullying Left Exploits Sandy Hook

nimh2 Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 6:23 AM
It is interesting to note that the cops that responded to the Newtown massacre (as well as in all of the other school massacres) "sat on their hands" until the shooting stopped. WHY were they not "proactive and in that building as the shooting was going on?? I guess that the "boys in blue" can't risk getting a hangnail. Cops are only useful for taking reports AFTER the fact.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:33 AM
During the LA riots of 1992,the police REFUSED to enter the riot zone to protect citizens,and Korean shopkeepers used "assault weapons" to hold off the rioting mob that came to burn them and their families alive in their shops/homes. that's just ONE good reason,not that we need ANY reason to own them.
it also is justification for 30 round magazines,you need firepower to hold off a riot mob.
Not that we need any justification.
KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 7:24 AM
That's not even remotely true. Reports indicate that when the shooter heard the police arrive, he shot himself. Also, the police have to assess a situation before taking action. If they simply run inside, they risk making matters worse. Perhaps you should gain some facts before you start pointing fingers and accusing people of allowing children to be slaughtered.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:36 AM
But if school employees were armed,that "good guy with a gun" would have arrived MUCH sooner,fewer kids would have been shot,and they would have NO trouble determining what was occurring and what needed to be done.
Why do "progressives" reject the ONE thing that is proven to work? Why do they allow their bias and lack of knowledge to trump the children's safety?
(armed teachers works in Israel,against PLO terrorists with -real- AK-47s.)
KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 8:48 AM
You don't know that. Where are the guns going to be safely kept in the classroom? Next to the chalkboard erasers? Who is going to train all of the teachers to use a gun at a level where they would be an effective shot against an armed intruder? Who will pay for that? The shooter was also wearing protective gear, as was the shooter in Aurora. Would the teachers be able to realize that quickly enough before they and their students are gunned down? Adding more weapons does not create safety. It will only cause attackers to become more creative and increase the body count.
Duke Nuk'em Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:00 AM
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 9:06 AM
YES,I DO know that. It's already occurred at two US schools.
And you fool,it's CONCEALED carry. that means the gun is on their persons.
And it's a LIE that the Aurora shooter and this guy was wearing protective gear.

they were wearing "tactical vests",just lots of pockets for gear,spare magazines.
NO body armor,no bullet resistance.
You are SO uninformed on this subject.
KevNC Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 10:02 AM
There have been 2 US schools where teachers were armed and stopped a gunman? Please cite your source.

You think that concealed carry is a good idea in a school? So, when an angry high school student lashes out and grabs that gun from the teacher and kills a bunch of other students, will you claim that this was an unforseen event?

The horror of the massacre of innocents at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. struck at the fabric of the American tapestry. Virtually every American has spent the last few days in a haze -- shocked at the nature of evil, confused and frustrated by the inability to prevent such an atrocity, fearful at the possibility of such a monstrous occurrence repeating itself.

It is only natural in such times to discuss what we can do differently to prevent such things from happening. Nobody wants to see dead children, grieving parents or bullet-riddled schools. Nobody. We may...