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Nick705 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:05 AM
born on Dec. 25. The scriptures decribe his birth, but not the date, the month, even the season. If the shepherds were tending their flocks that night it wouldn't have been in December. In winter nights are cold even in Palestine. They and their flocks would have been sheltered in the villages. Early Christians asserted May as his birth month, and various sects have named every month of the year. The early church found that at a time when life was nasty, brutish and short, since ancient times people celebrated the end of December as having pased the shortest day by eating, drinking and making merry. The Romans called it Saturnalia.
Mark in CA Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 2:29 AM
I mostly agree with you, Nick. However, your questioning the historical fact of the earthly life of Jesus of Nazareth is ridiculous. There is abundant historical evidence supporting the fact of the earthly ministry of Jesus of Nazareth.
Nick705 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:06 AM
Puritans brought their aversion of Christmas to the New World, making its celebration a crime. In Boston in 1706, a mob attacked a church holding a Christmas service. By state law, in Massachusetts children were required to attend school on Dec. 25, and many ministers condemned the whole idea of Christmas, some calling it a "foreign day." It was not until 1885, when Congress declared Dec. 25 a federal holiday, that it began a renaissance in the US. So, far from the annual lament about "taking Christ out of Christmas" from religious people ignorant of its historical origins, many are simply returning it to its original, pre-Christian, purpose. Eat, drink and be merry, and to hell with the priests and prelates!
Nick705 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 1:06 AM
The Christian church was appalled at this exhibition of indulgence in the pleasures of the flesh of all varieties, so they simply stole the festival and told their reluctant flocks "No, no! This is the day when the Redeemer was born," and the whole Bethlehem, Three Wise Men [note, the Bible makes no mention of the number, it just says "wise men" - it could have been two, or 37], manger, Star in the East, shepherds, etc. etc. myth began here. Eat, drink and be merry, the Church said, (so as not to lose their entire new congregation) but lay off the screwing a bit, OK, and remember this is the date of Christ's birth, and it's now not called Saturnalia, but Christes Messe. You got a problem with that? (We have ways of making you see the...