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Surviving the Humanist Hurricane

nawlins72 Wrote: Sep 24, 2012 6:03 PM
Barber is an intellectual clown. His arguments are dishonest: "He and other “progressives” who share his worldview willfully ignore that, as history proves, when man is the measure of all things, all things can, and usually do, go horribly wrong. Consider, for example, the hundreds of millions killed under the humanist regimes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, et al." Great of you to ignore all of the murder and oppression that occurred during the Middle Ages under theocratic rule. Not to mention, this argument that if you don't believe in God, you must be a moral relativist is absurd. Tell that to Ayn Rand.
Greg1084 Wrote: Sep 24, 2012 6:10 PM
Take a closer look at the Middle Ages. They don't hold a candle to the last hundred years, and in most instances religion was a pretext, not a cause for war. Guys just wanted other people's stuff. In the last century people really were conquered and killed in the service of an ideology, and all of those ideologies were atheistic and humanistic.
nawlins72 Wrote: Sep 24, 2012 6:19 PM
Sorry, Greg, but you don't get to rationalize away the murders and oppression of the Middle Ages as being "a pretext", then claim that the modern atrocities were directly attributable to "atheism and humanism". The latter are bound by the same rationalizations as the former. The communists abandoned the pure Marxian teachings for expediency and perpetuation of personal power. Of course, communism and fascism were ideologies, but humanism and atheism were insignificant aspects of them. The core was the omnipotent State, which was not very different than the omnipotent Church during the Middle Ages.
ReddestNeck Wrote: Sep 24, 2012 11:56 PM
You'd like to think the self comforting thought that it didn't matter whether a church or a mosque or a group of rabid atheists was at the helm when men wanted to do evil things (forbidden by the bible, incidentally) to other men.

The differences are glaring.

The upcoming elections aren’t about Republican vs. Democrat; conservative vs. liberal; Romney vs. Obama. Not entirely, at least. They’re much bigger than all that.

November signifies nothing new. It’s a microcosm of a much greater struggle – one that predates mankind. These elections are about truth vs. lies; light vs. darkness; good vs. evil.

Ultimately, November represents a high point – or a low point if you prefer – in the epic clash between diametrically opposed and fundamentally incompatible worldviews.

On the one hand, we have the Judeo-Christian worldview. It is both informed by and fully acknowledges absolute...