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Did Freedom Win?

nawlins72 Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 3:55 PM
Rhetoric. To charge that those who advocate for greater freedom are foolishly risking their liberty is to argue a contradiction. The only way one loses his/her freedom is by the actions of those who wish to deprive others of said freedom.
nawlins72 Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 6:28 PM
That's because your point is confused.
nawlins72 Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 6:27 PM
"No, I think it is possible to willingly give up freedom, and that this concept is possible through ignorance."

Of course it is, but you have to show how and where libertarians are acting in such a manner. I don't have to go far to find conservatives who believe that we must give up liberty in order to protect it. I have had this debate several times with TH'ers.
johnm h Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 5:14 PM
I've obviously not my point clear. Try thinking about it.
Virginia Daddy Wrote: Nov 14, 2012 5:10 PM
No, I think it is possible to willingly give up freedom, and that this concept is possible through ignorance.

Democrats won big last week. So government will continue to grow. Individual freedom will yield.

At least some people with records of supporting liberty were elected: Sen. Jeff Flake in Arizona and U.S. Reps. Justin Amash and Kerry Bentivolio in Michigan and Thomas Massie in Kentucky.

Also, Washington and Colorado voted to allow any adult to use marijuana. (But users beware. Your newfound freedom may be short-lived thanks to that extraordinary human being in the White House -- you know, the one who smoked pot when he was in school. Despite promising that he wouldn't, he has cracked down on pot...