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Assault on Religious Liberty (Part 2)

Navy-baby Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 11:01 AM
tbrennan@10:35 What is your "right to choose" actually choosing? Death. Talk about a real war on women--approx. one-half of all the aborted babies are female. How can you defend that reality with inane platitudes and rhetoric? We "religious" don't want to strip women of rights--we want to PROTECT the unborn from being persecuted to death. Why don't you uphold the criminals "right to choose" their intended victim? What if they would choose to kill a pregnant woman--what could you say to them?
Robert1824 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 6:52 PM
We don't have socialism in America. We never had . Charity is fine, but it's totally unrealistic to think that charities can provide for everyone in need . You don't even know what socialism is . Welfare and other govewrnemnt programs to help people are NOT "socialism".
Robert1824 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 6:51 PM
Navy baby, that's a false comparison . Your arguments to make abortion legal just don't hold water. They would never work .
Robert1824 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 6:50 PM
That may be a good thing, but it's totally unrealistic to expect all unwanted children to be adopted this way . We already have too many BORN poor childrren living in horrible conditions. Why don't you adopt some of those ?
Robert1824 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 6:48 PM
Alex, the story about conservatives supposedly giving more to charities is YOUR straw man. Even if this were true, it wouldn't even come remotely close enough to provide for all unwanted children . You also didn't answer my question about this. Do you support the civil rights of babies which grow up to be homosexual ?
If not , you're a hypocritical creep .
Bill1895 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 1:11 PM
Hey Robert:: charity not socialism.

Homosexuals already have the same rights as normal people.
Navy-baby Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:31 PM
BTW, Robert, being "poor" is not a death sentence. Most of my dad's family were "dirt poor" during the Great Depression. He joined the CCC's at 17, to be able to WORK and send money home to his family--he got to keep $5.00 a MONTH, but was given room and board far, far away from his family while he worked on the West Coast.

NO ONE today in American should lack healthcare--free clinics are in every town. Most schools have free lunches--ours even has free breakfast for ALL. Food stamps keep them fed the rest of the time. The truly needy have many options for help; the neglected child is the one I most worry about--and that is where adoption can work wonders.
Navy-baby Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:23 PM
I fostered babies awaiting adoption, Robert. Any mother who doesn't want the baby can offer her child to a loving, willing adoptive couple who can give them EVERYTHING you just proposed they MIGHT lack. Believe me, more than just the abject poor choose abortions--far too many consider it a "right" and a means of "uh-oh" birth control.
Alex_P Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:04 PM
Robert1824 Wrote: a fine illustration to the definition of "strawman".
Once you run your accusations against actual statistics of who gives to charity, you may want to change whom do you call hypocrites.
traitorbill Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 11:18 AM
Maybe you should provide us with the benefits of your findings.

Black babies are disproportionately the victims of abortions. Where are the race hucksters?
Last week, I gave 12 examples of how religious liberty has been assaulted in just the past two years in the U.S. Here are about two dozen more instances just for good measure, as reported by the Family Research Council, the office of Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va., and various media outlets.

--The following public institutions recently have joined the growing ranks of those that have banned the use of the word "Easter" in order to diminish or eliminate references to religion: East Meadow School District in New York, Prospect Heights Public Library in Illinois, Heritage Elementary School in Alabama, Manhattan Beach Unified...