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"There is no such thing as a CHRISTIAN business." So, the state gets to determine doctrinal disputes now? Shouldn't it be up to Christians to decide if there can be a Christian business? I thought liberals supported the First Amendment...
"There is no requirement for any marriage to be of 'value to society.' It is for the two people involved and their family relationships." The male-female coupling is what is of value to society in and of itself. Even devoid of children, it is a public icon of procreation and life. The vows are demanding of self-sacrifice for the purpose of furthering the cause of the human race. "In case you hadn't noticed, gay couples are already raising children -- 2 million, according to estimates by Freedom to Marry, and at least 250,000 by actual count in the 2010 census" Taking either, the estimate from Freedom to Marry being absolutely absurd on its face (this would mean that gays had more children per capita than straight people), is irrelevant. Children should not be systematically deprived of mothers and fathers, and the fact the courts do not take that into account on custody battles is a strike against the courts, not for gay marriage. "If the gay couples raising them cannot marry or at least have two-parent adoption, one partner may not even be able to attend a parent-teacher conference, make medical decisions in an emergency or provide for the children in case of death. They cannot benefit from Social Security, military or veterans benefits, take advantage of tax provisions or inheritance rules that apply to married couples." Why? Because one of them isn't the parent. You realize that this is damaging for children with stepparents? Children generally don't like it when their stepparents from a second marriage are overly involved in their lives. That's regardless of the perfectly natural weirdness of having two people of the same sex raising you, being denied of at least one biological parent for whatever reason. Suppressing nature itself simply will not prevail in the end. You will continuously have to suppress the thoughts of children who ask "where's my mommy or daddy?" until your experiment inevitably fails. Eventually, you will not be able to suppress all of the depression, mental illness, and sad suicide stories from raising children in such an unnatural environment.
If we don't have Kentucky, where is there to go? I mean, it's Kentucky for crying out loud! How much more conservative can you get? To be fair, Lexington leans left within Kentucky. It might be a local thing. Personally, I'm an advocate of creating an illegal immigration problem in Canada. We can control elections completely with only around 10 million votes, especially considering there is a native social conservative movement there. I'm only afraid bringing along too many Americanists will demand that they abolish the monarchy.
These folks think ISIS are just extreme social conservatives. That's how demented and myopic they are. Everyday I think more of the liberal mind's ability to twist and obfuscate the truth. It's really rather impressive until you realize how evil it is.
Can we finally have some kind of rally or protest about this kind of stuff? Normally, I hate that garbage, but we haven't done anything since the Tea Party, and that was more about taxes than social issues. These cases multiply and get more serious by the day across the entire Western world. France has managed to get tens of thousands, if not millions, to march against the destruction of the family. France!!! For Heaven's Sake, that's liberal, French Revolution, radical France!! In the U.S., our SC doesn't even have the guts to take on the issue and we sit by and do nothing but blindly vote for the check-pants Republicans.
At least French people get out in the street to protest this stuff. At least tens of thousands marched through Paris this year and last to protest gay marriage and the idiocy of gay adoption and surrogacy.
It won't work. Christianity proved most persistent in even more adverse conditions in Rome and Moscow.
Gay marriage isn't what has torn apart society. That was already accomplished by the broad acceptance of frivolous divorce and casual sex. Millions of children were already damaged by living in homes without their fathers and mothers presents. Gay marriage is a symptom of long-standing social ills that date back at least decades, if not centuries. Gay marriage is beyond reason. It is like trying to square the circle. You can yell and scream at the top of your lungs about how it isn't damaging and it's about equality or whatever cheap liberal sloganeering you want to expound, but the fact something like "gay marriage" is even on the table is enough proof that we were already in the sewer generations ago. To turn the font of human life, the male-female coupling, which for thousands of years has held our societies into something you can get out of easier than a car lease is cruel and unjust. Then to make a further mockery of it by having the state actively endorse and protect sacrilege of such a sacred life giving institution is to invite the Wrath of God. You might think that makes me an ignorant Bible Thumper, but I think it makes me sensible enough to know who ultimately has all the power in the universe and stick with the way He ordained things. Even beyond that, it is absolutely silly to think that nature will let us get away with doing something as silly as endorsing non-procreative unions. Gay marriages produce nothing of any value to society at all. All they do is provide approval for a deviant and non-productive lifestyle. Regardless if you believe in God or not, gays do not produce children and there is no reason to systematically deny children of mothers and fathers. I simply do not understand a mindset that allows such things as an ordinary course of action, nor do wish to understand it. If all this means I'm fighting a losing battle, whatever. A society that cannot even figure out how to raise children properly isn't worth being accepted by.
"...in this case an attempt to adjudicate the so-called 'hook-up culture' in such a way as to make it undesirable to participate - but at what cost?" If that was its aim, social conservatives should generally have little problem with it. But that is demonstrably not its aim. It is a law based on Feminist drivel about "patriarchy" and so-called "rape culture." Supposedly, men are predators. If we want to marry women and take care of them and make babies with them, we are evil patriarchalists who want women to stay barefoot and in the kitchen. If we just want to have casual sex with them, we have commitment problems and engage in fraud to get women to have sex with us, which is rape, supposedly. If you are a man, you cannot win with this system. The closest you can come to that is accept it and become a slavish, pee-whipped manboy. This law is aimed at criminalizing men, plain and simple. It is, therefore, against the first principles of justice itself. All this will do is provide disincentive for all male-female relations, since California has already led the way in destroying marriage with no fault divorce shenanigans.
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Nathan223 Wrote: Oct 07, 2014 3:25 PM
It is rather legally confusing, but it should be treason as ISIS is an avowed enemy of the United States. To take up arms with them is to engage in war with the United States. To attempt to do so is the same thing as attempting any other crime.
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Nathan223 Wrote: Oct 07, 2014 3:22 PM
The only thing I think that can stop these people in the near future, absent our sending real troops (at least a division, preferably something more along the lines of corps strength) is if the militants invade Turkey and Turkey brings down the weight of its forces on these fools. However, Turkey is presently run by an Islamist regime, so ISIS would have to be strategic fools to send major forces into Turkey. So far, they seem a bit shaky on the strategy front, but not that stupid. With Obama in the White House, we should expect that ISIS will become an established state. Furthermore, it will have a capable army and rich oil territory which they will be able to profit from through black market sales. Eventually, it might even become a Great Power if it can get the other Islamist groups to rally under their banner. The reason we are unable to spot this? The foolish dogmas of progressivism that penetrate every level of society.
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