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Nathan223 Wrote: 22 hours ago (4:02 PM)
My post was directed at many of the preceding pro-independence posts. "Historical fact"? The pro-Scottish independence posts are more like a collection of random out of context facts creating the impression (most likely sincerely held by the posters) of oppression of Scotland by England in recent years. For instance, one fact mentioned is the land enclosures in the Highlands. Neglected is the fact that England itself went through enclosure, and similar events happened in most of Europe, as part of the ongoing process of the Agricultural Revolution. It was not an attempt to purge Scottish culture. And, yes, the posts are impious because they lack any spirit of filial piety towards our mother country. They are made in an ignorance with little to no knowledge of the circumstances of those events, taking facts out of context and making mountains out of mole hills. It is reflective of an uncharitable and rebellious spirit.
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Nathan223 Wrote: 22 hours ago (3:43 PM)
Not to mention the clearances were as much as a result of the beginning stages of industrialization as some attempt to destroy Scottish culture. I think much of what was done was problematic, but similar things happened everywhere in Europe, not just Scotland. In fact, they happened in England starting in the 16th Century.
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Nathan223 Wrote: 22 hours ago (3:39 PM)
Compared to other countries, Scotland was a poor country. That isn't an attack on Scotland. It's mostly a result of its poor resources. They just don't have much, so it is naturally one of the poorer Western European countries.
I'm convinced they would be coming back to England crying in 20 years anyway. They would have a constant brain drain to England as much of the Scottish population is loyal anyway and the decent job opportunities would slowly leave, forcing even many Nationalist kids to go down to England for decent jobs. Furthermore, the SNP is a bunch of left-wing lunatics who are more bent on the destruction of Scottish culture than any English King ever thought of being.
This controversy makes me want to be a hardcore Redskins fan just to spite the liberals.
One of the reasons they want independence is because taxes are too low for them. They want to make them higher to finance even more socialist programs.
English has been spoken in Scotland for as long as it has been spoken in England.
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Nathan223 Wrote: 23 hours ago (2:45 PM)
I simply can't stand impious American "conservatives" who rant about supposed oppression by England, especially in Scotland. And you know what? The left-wing Salmond government of an independent Scotland would be even less hesitant about utterly destroying traditional Scottish identity than any English king ever was. They've already started a campaign promoting the new, multiculti "Scottish" identity that includes Muslim women in Burkas and Romanian gypsies.
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Nathan223 Wrote: 23 hours ago (2:40 PM)
That's simply untrue. The Scottish Parliament assented to the Union as it was in their own best interest. They had already been in personal union for over a hundred years anyway (you know, when a Scot inherited the English Throne). Scotland was a poor backwater that could hardly afford to feed itself before that.
It would reduce trade, not because of patriotism necessarily, but because Scotland would not be an EU member and thus not part of a common market, at least for a time. Even a small disruption on 2/3 of your trade could have devastating consequences for the economy, and this would be a rather significant disruption, especially if the rest of the UK leaves the EU (almost a certainty sans solidly pro-EU Scotland).
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