In response to:

Michelle Obama Compares Herself to Murdered Teenager in Chicago Speech

mulbery Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 11:51 AM
Its unbelievable to me that anyone could criticize Michelle for what she said here. She grew up on Chicago's south side. What is wrong with what she said? The alternative to gun control is no gun control, woudl that make anything better? Let me ask you, when the Dr. says you need to lose weight, does he tell you to eat less food? Or does he tell you to eat more pizza and doniuts? What us crazy liberals are saying is that you can't lose weight by eating more pizza and donuts. Call me stupid but that's the idea.
Steve1579 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 1:30 PM
right to arm bears Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 12:08 PM
mulbery- All due respect to your liberal ideals and practical advances, when you start the comparisons of apples and oranges you don't really advance your argument. When you consider the gun control environment of Chicago and the fact that the only "controlled" population in Chicago happens to be the law-abidding citizens, you create the gun-free zones that only attract criminals looking for victims that don't provide any resistance when fired upon. Criminal by definition don't follow the law, no matter how strict the laws are, or how many there are. Give it up. Even in the "gun-free zones" of Texas (Lone Star College) we have loons with box-cutters cutting up innocents. This would not occur if CCW were allowed to stop attacks before
right to arm bears Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 12:08 PM
they result in "mass" victims.
GodsLaw Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 12:00 PM
OK. You're stupid.

The dubious logic of Democrat "gun control" laws is to make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to acquire the means of self-defense while simultaneously failing to properly penalize crimnals who use illegally acquired guns to commit violent acts.

In EVERY place where legal gun ownership is encouraged and concealed carry licenses can be easily obtained by honest citizens, violent crime drops dramatically and stays low. In EVERY place where gun restreictions are imposed on law abiding citizens, violent crime escalates and stays high.

Once again, reality interferes with the leftist fantasy.
mulbery Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 12:20 PM
So you think violent crime wasn't already high in Chicago? Becuase that would be wrong. They are comlpletely different causes and effects. One is lawlessness. The other is innocent, law abiliding people having their teenagers take guns and shoot other innocent law abiding people and chidlren. We dont' have to give a damn about the lawless, because you're right, it won't make any difference. But what about your children and mine?
Becca in TX Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 12:36 PM
mulbarry-My children grew up with guns and they'd been on their first hunting trip by the time they were 12, but they were taught how and when to use a gun. They were also taught right from wrong, so they weren't out shooting other people. If the Obama's are so worried about gun violence in Chicago, why don't they actually endorse something that has relevence to the actual problem? How about trying to get guns out of the hands of criminals? Why don't they quit spending so much of their time and attention on trying to take legal guns from law-abiding citizens and concentrate their efforts on those that break the law?
Steve1579 Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 1:33 PM
I dare you to go stand on any corner in south Chicago at night, with a sign that says "I'm glad I am in a gun-free zone". Don't forget to click your stopwatch. I will guess about 2 minutes will go B4 you are robbed, beat up, or shot.
RiffRaff Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 11:56 AM
You offer a false solution. Gun control or no gun control the end result will be the same. So, why restrict something if it's not going to improve anything. That's like raising the price of gas. How do you feel about that? Does more expensive gas burn better in your car? Gun control won't stop the gang bangers from killing kids like the kid that killed Hadiya.
TX Yankee Wrote: Apr 11, 2013 11:55 AM
Happy to call you stupid, and thanks for the invitation.

Chicago already has some of the toughest gun control laws...but it has one of the worst murder rates in the nation.

'Splain that one, mulbery

Yesterday the First Lady gave a speech in Chicago about guns, obviously her forte. In the speech she compared herself to Hadiya Pendleton who was shot just a week after performing at the inauguration. Mrs. Obama said, “Hadiya Pendleton was me, and I was her”.

The First Lady went on to say:

"Thousands of children in this city live in neighborhoods where a funeral for a teenager is considered unfortunate, but not unusual; where wandering onto the wrong block or even just standing on your own front porch can mean putting yourself at risk," Michelle Obama told the Chicago crowd,...