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Deceit in the Boy Scouts

mturn115 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:10 PM
Why are gays so interested in leading boy scouts? Is it their high morals and their "optimal" lifestyle (as evidenced by their sexual choices) they want to impart and model for them. I would not want my sons to have a gay man as their role model. I would rather have a heterosexual man, of high morals and values, that loves God and models that, to have as a role model for my boys. Not someone who picks and chooses what Biblical passages to follow and has made a sinful act (homosexual sex) a main part of their personality and lifestyle. Similarly, I don't want people who lie regularly as a lifestyle, who are sexually promiscuous, who cheat financially, and other such things (not occasional mistakes, but continuous practice of these things) to lead my boys, either.
Nanuq Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:25 PM
Precisely. I do not care if they are homosexual, heterosexual or asexual. Sexuality does not belong in Scouting. Period.

I would reject a Scout leader that was openly a thief. Or a liar. Or a drunkard. Or one that was in an adulterous relationship. That is all sin.

The Scout Oath says "on my honor, I will DO MY BEST to do my duty to God."

That means we do our best not to sin, and sin is a much bigger word than mere homosexuality.
Anominus Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:30 PM
"Precisely. I do not care if they are homosexual, heterosexual or asexual. Sexuality does not belong in Scouting. Period."

Indeed, and that would be why scouts have been segregated into boyscouts and girlscouts - it's to allow the children to have time away from the other sex, and allow them to better focus on the skills and morals they need to learn. That's just one more reason why homosexuals are incompatible with the scouting concept.
David3036 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:17 PM
OK, we've heard all of the usual BS about gays, like the promiscuity accusation, but this "cheat financially" is a new one. Where is THAT coming from?
Anominus Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:27 PM
The world doesn't revolve around some thin-skinned perverts - maybe you should try reading the comment again.

Those were not "accusations" against homosexuals, but a list of people who are also not viable leaders for the BSA due to their behaviors which conflict with the values of scouting.
Bill1895 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:28 PM
A person who promotes inmoral behavior: homosexuality, theft, drug abuse, rape, racism, ect: is not fit to be a leader in the Boy Scouts.
DCM in FL Wrote: May 08, 2013 2:01 PM
"we've heard all of the usual BS about gays, like the promiscuity accusation"

Are you really going to claim that's not firmly grounded in reality? Please.
David3036 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:14 PM
Gay parents want to be Scout leaders for the same reason that straight parents do -- they want to be involved with their kids who are in scouting.

My advice to them is to forget about the Boy Scouts and put their kids in Camp Fire. It’s no longer just for girls, and in fact its membership these days is about half boys. Members can become involved as a family, and Camp Fire helps kids learn the ideals of community service.
anderson659 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:19 PM
Gay parents want to be involved in scouting? his whole issue was started by single homosexual males.

Why do homosexuals now insist on identifying with straight institutions they mock ?

Homosexuals mock and demean everything about the boy scouts, especially the morality part and God.
David3036 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:29 PM
"This whole thing," as you put it, was indeed started by a single man, James Dale. He had been all through scouting up to the Eagle rank, so why is it surprising that he would want to continue as an adult?

This is the problem with excluding kids who want to be honest about their sexuality. Children start in Cub Scouts as early as second grade, and many have been through several levels of scouting before they’re aware of their sexual orientation. What generally happens is that a boy goes almost all the way through the scouting experience -- Cub Scouts, Webelos, Boy Scouts and perhaps even achieving Eagle Scout status -- before he is sure that he’s gay.
Bill1895 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:32 PM
Great idea: go elsewhere homosexuals; you are not wanted in the Boy Scouts.
Bill1895 Wrote: May 08, 2013 1:39 PM
James Dale came out as a homosexual. He is not fit to be a Boy Scout Leader. If he is not 'man enough' to accept the consequences of coming out, why is that the Boy Scouts' problem?
These boys needs to make a decision: is my desire to have sex with other boys or men so important that I will give up other opportunities?