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Here Come the Polygamists

Blowtorch of Reason Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:05 PM
You assume that the city of Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality, which is seen as the worst of all sins in the Bible. These assumptions are based on no evidence at all in the Bible. No Jewish scholars before the first Christian century taught that the sin of Sodom was sexual. None of the biblical references to Sodom mention sexual sins but view Sodom as an example of injustice, lack of hospitality to strangers, idolatry and as a symbol for desolation and destruction. See Deuteronomy 29:22-28; 32:32; Ezekiel 16:49-50; Jeremiah 49:18; 50:41; Isaiah 13:19-22 and Matthew 10:14-15
jwilliams Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:44 PM
I'm missing the No True Scotsman fallacy here. Please explain, Topeka.

The sin of Sodom is unclear. Were they punished because they were homosexuals? Because they were gang rapists? Because they disregarded hospitality (in the Old Testament, Lot's daughters were his to offer to whoever he wanted, but the strangers were his guests)? We don't know. All we know is, according to Jude, that they were fornicators who "knew strange flesh" - hardly very specific.
gsw Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:41 PM
because you idio he thought they were "normal" If he had know what they were he never would have come into town. think man!
jwilliams Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:37 PM
"As a result of the judgement of God on Sodom for the sin of homosexuality, among other sins, the word Sodomite has become synonomus with homosexuality."

No, that's because of the Christian tradition that their sin was homosexuality. Jury's out as to what God's judgment was.
Topeka Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:22 PM
... No true scotsman Mr C?

Are you arguing they were heterosexual b/c they refused his daughters?
SOGAPreacher Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:20 PM
I've often wondered that myself. But then again, maybe he was hoping to protect the agents of God by any means necessary.
SOGAPreacher Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:15 PM
As a result of the judgement of God on Sodom for the sin of homosexuality, among other sins, the word Sodomite has become synonomus with homosexuality.
Blowtorch of Reason Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:14 PM
If the men were homosexual, why did Lot offer to give them his daughters? These hostile and violent people were heterosexual, and homosexual orientation had nothing to do with the incident.
SOGAPreacher Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:12 PM
If the word "know" is as you described and defined then why did the man offer his virgin daughters as a substitute for the angels when the crowd demanded them be turned over so they could "know" them?
Blowtorch of Reason Wrote: Aug 07, 2012 2:06 PM
The word "know" in Genesis 19:5 is Hebrew YADA. It is used 943 times in the Old Testament to "know" God, good and evil, the truth, the law, people, places, things, etc. It is a very flexible word, as are many Hebrew words

The Hebrew word YADA "to know" is never used in the Old Testament to mean "to have sex with". People have been conditioned to think that "to know someone biblically" means to have sex. The use of YADA in Genesis 4:1-2 to say that Adam knew Eve and she conceived and gave birth to Cain is followed by saying that later she gave birth to his brother Abel without any reference to YADA. Why? Simply because YADA does not mean to have sex. It is a general term that describes many kinds of intimate relationships.

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