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The GOP and the "Working Class"

The thing is, Conservatives expect "the working class" to, you know, WORK for a living. Left-libs' policies are all about turning them into "the entitlement class".
Emberato Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 7:14 AM
What exactly is an entitlement to a Conservative? Social Security? Food Stamps? Medicare?
upwithRomney Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 8:04 AM
I work with the aging population and Social Security and Medicare and minimal foodshare support keep huge numbers of elderly from living in poverty. We can choose to support them with State tax money or we can let them, our parents and grandparents, live as impoverished citizens after being hard working citizens all of their lives
R.D.8 Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 8:16 AM
We as in the families, right?
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 9:40 AM
Yes.

If you get a check simply for existing that's an entitlement.

Its not our fault that previous generations allowed themselves to be scammed by the idea that the government had their SS money stored somewhere safe in a "lockbox".
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 9:42 AM
If they're still capable of working they should be working.

They should have saved for their own retirement.

They should be supported by their own kids, not by me. My husband and I have our own parents' to consider.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 9:42 AM
Exactly.

Its our responsibility to take care of our own family.
Becca in TX Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 2:21 PM
An "entitlement" is something you are entitled to. Social Security and Medicare should be called entitlements because people have paid for them, so they're entitled to them. Handouts, like welfare and medicaid, should not be called entitlements. NO ONE is entitled to a handout.
Rick676 Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 3:16 PM
The problem with the entitlements you mention is that most recipients take out far more than they have put in. With retirement at 65, many are now living into their late eighties and even their nineties. This means that the last 20 - 30 years of their lives they are getting benefits at a rate that would have depleted their pay into the system within the first 5 - 6 years. It also means that we are paying for their health care costs at a time when they are most frequent and costly. THAT is why they are going broke, and will collapse in the not distant future.
Becca in TX Wrote: Dec 12, 2012 4:04 PM
Rick-The problem with your argument is that it doesn't consider the time value of money. My Dad paid into SS for 40 years. The money he paid in the 50's doesn't add up to much if you don't factor in inflation. As for Medicare, recipients don't get it for nothing. My parents had it taken out of their checks for years and they still pay $400 a quarter for it. It's not free and it's not a handout.

I've always taken exception to the term "working class" used to denote blue collar workers; my dad was a doctor and he was often at the hospital treating patients for 12 1/2 hours per day.  What about that isn't working?

Even so, Matt Lewis (once of Townhall) has an important piece in The Week, discussing the increasing demoralization of the working class (in the traditional sense of the term). It's a topic well worth the GOP's attention, not because "creative destruction" (and the failed lives and towns, etc. that accompany it) isn't an inevitable part of capitalism -- but because...