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Hail, Hail Michigan

If unions provided any real value to their members the employees would send in the checks freely just like they freely pay for other services that they value. That unions insist on forced dues collection proves that they know they aren't providing anything worth buying in a free market.
pkoski Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 7:51 AM
If that's the case, then why am I forced to endure an increase in my property tax bill to support a school district that I have no childern addending? Shouldn't property owners be given the choice to pay that part of their ever increasing bill?
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:04 AM
Not a valid comparison.

Government and business are two different things.

Besides, you get to vote for your local government on a regular basis. Unions are voted in once and forever.
samswede Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:19 AM
I'm with you on that. Vouchers would give us true choice and much improved schools. Unfortunately, Dems don't buy into the concept of free markets and its offspring- capitalism.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:25 AM
The only "choice" left-libs approve of is the "choice" to murder inconvenient children.
Joseph64 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:45 AM
They actually should. Schools should be subsidized solely by those who choose to send their children there. There is no reason why anyone who does not have children in the schools should be paying the school tax.
Joseph64 Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 8:46 AM
It is a valid comparison. Why should I pay to educate your children? Educating your children is YOUR responsibility, not mine.
mistermilo Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 10:54 AM
pkoski-

as mother says-- it is not the same thing at all. You have left the world of labor and gone to the world of government taxes. I live in Georgia. I live in my county of choice because , among a few reasons, I am retired and over 65. I do not have to pay school tax.

Most teachers are opposed to the senior discount--it blocks a source of revenue to help in union negotiations for pay increases. That ties in to unions who tell the teachers to oppose the tax break for retired seniors,

Aren't we all so nice when it comes to extorting money from others?? For the hard of reading, that was sarcasm.
DoctorRoy Wrote: Dec 14, 2012 10:56 AM
That's not true, Mother. Unions get de-certified all the time.

If you read me regularly, you’ll know that there are very few things that I feel strongly about ;-). I’m kind of a wilting violet in print, who tries hard not to impose his views on readers. Instead, I paint words pictures of objective fact, interlaced with strongly-reasoned logical progressions that allows readers to form their own opinions unguided by me. (Take a deep breath here, and clean the coffee off your nose, chin, lips and computer screen)  

Today is no different.

Unions suck.

Really they do. I have said this before, as an objective fact:

“They suck the money out...