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Middle East Democracy

Moonglowalso Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 2:01 AM
I cringe every time people start jumping up and down and applauding the overthrow of dictators and implementation of new 'democracies' in the Middle East. It's a version of 'choose your poison.' Yet we continue to get giddy with whatever revolution is taking place. I am concerned, Walter, with your proposal for a complete hands off policy. There were atrocities which took place in Hitler's Europe that the U.S. was aware of but did nothing about, not even to raise a voice of protest.
fromohio Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 7:55 AM
2. The article is missing the point by not explaining why those two countries ruled by dictators were in fact maintaining a status quo of limited sharia influence. Mubarak fought the MB all his life. Gaddafi was the head of a multi-tribal society which was kept at bay.
3. There is no democracy in islam, there are no individual rights, there is only the direct covenant between god and the people as written in the koran, the hadiths, the sunna and the sina.
fromohio Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 7:38 AM
1. Nazism was a threat from inside the western civilization against western civilization, it had to be fought. What's happening in the ME and the author misses the opportunity to make the difference obvious, is the fact that there, in the ME, we are having an other civilization at the helm, the islamic civilization that if warrants any changes those have to come from within. The percentage of muslims who want change is very low for now and is lacking the necessary resources for a proper fight against the mainstream.
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 8:03 AM
Ohio: What's your point? That what is happening in the ME is justification for the gubmint stealing my tax dollars to go fight stupid wars that are none of our business? Are you employed at Wright-Pat?
fromohio Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 9:37 AM
On the contrary: the author is correct in suggesting that we should stay out of it. We may go in, if so we wish, but only to win. At present we are their dhimmis. What the author doesn't say though is that "charity begins at home", meaning that we should clean out the stable here first for the infestation is already at the top...
c5c5c5 Wrote: Dec 26, 2012 6:01 AM
Moonglowalso,

IF cititzens such as yourself are worried about atrocities being committed by others, there is nothing wrong with organizing funding with like-minded concerned people and hiring professionals to ease your conscience.

What is wrong is forcing Americans to fund these initiatives when our direct security interests are not affected. One can argue in the case of Hitler that he had well-known intentions of eventually attacking America so our involvement was justified.

But if we do not like how other people are treating their citizens, then we ought to volunaritly put our money where our mouth is instead of using everyone's resources to do good.
Here's the first paragraph of my last year's column "Democracy Is Impossible":

"After Moammar Gadhafi's downfall as Libya's tyrannical ruler, politicians and 'experts' in the U.S. and elsewhere, including French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe, are saying that his death marked the end of 42 years of tyranny and the beginning of democracy in Libya. Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., said Gadhafi's death represented an opportunity for Libya to make a peaceful and responsible transition to democracy. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said, 'Now it is time for Libya's Transitional National Council to show the world that it will respect the rights of all...

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