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"They About to Beat This Boy to Death"

Molly Zin Wrote: Aug 09, 2013 2:11 PM
He was black.
I know I'm coming late to the discussion here. And I replied your earlier question, not having seen this one. Since you ask it again though, I'll repost my answer: Zimmerman wadsn't following Martin at any distance. Martin ran off into the darkness, THEN Zimmerman got out to try to see which way he went, but didn't spot him again until after he hung up with non-emergency several minutes later, when Martin suddenly appeared, strode up to Zimmerman while asking "you got a problem" and then punched him in the nose. That tells me that Martin was watching Zimmerman where he couldn't be seen, listened to the phone conversation, and then, furious that Zimmerman was discussing him with police, attacked. Also, Jeantel said in the Nancy Grace interview that Martin told her that he was in his father's girlfriend's backyard, did not go inside, but asked her to check to see if the football game had started yet. Not something a kid who was suffering from terror would ask. Sounds like he wanted to know whether he had time to "handle" (Jeantel's word) Zimmerman without missing the kickoff.
Zimmerman wadsn't following Martin at any distance. Martin ran off into the darkness, THEN Zimmerman got out to try to see which way he went, but didn't spot him again until after he hung up with non-emergency several minutes later, when Martin suddenly appeared, strode up to Zimmerman while asking "you got a problem" and then punched him in the nose. That tells me that Martin was watching Zimmerman where he couldn't be seen, listened to the phone conversation, and then, furious that Zimmerman was discussing him with police, attacked. Also, Jeantel said in the Nancy Grace interview that Martin told her that he was in his father's girlfriend's backyard, did not go inside, but asked her to check to see if the football game had started yet. Not something a kid who was terrified would ask. Sounds like he wanted to know whether he had time to "handle" (Jeantel's word) Zimmerman without missing the kickoff.
First time we've ever not had medical insurance for all of us.
I've already had to give up health insurance for my three kids as family coverage was not offered by my husbands employer and mine was over $700 month for family. Just can't do it.
I understand that many, many black people feel that they live under suspicion. Or are misunderstood, or rejected for their skin color or their culture. Its not fun to experience. What I'm not sure many of them understand is that there is no one who escapes that same rejection in from other people in some form, whether it's skin color or something else. Example, if you're fat, you don't get hired, don't get dates, aren't included. Ditto for ugly. You're not allowed to be shown on camera except as the comic relief or suffered to speak politically by some people if you don't look a certain way. I'm a white woman and when I visited a dear friend in Oakland and walked to her house from the bus stop, people shouted "Hey Whitey! Why are you here?" at me and made me afraid. I'm not excusing racism or other forms of rejection, I'm saying that if you think you are the only ones experiencing it, you're wrong. Its the nature of unregenerate humans to use ostracism and division to gain power over others and to elevate themselves, and if someone is inclined that way, they'll use whatever is available, skin color or whatever else to accomplish it. The way to overcome it is not to riot or to accuse, but to rise above it and to love.
6. Martin was "frightened"? Why didn't he run home, lock all the locks and call 911? Martin didn't do that. Instead, he circles Zimmerman's car, staring intimidatingly, then skips away into the dark. He tells his friend Jeantel that he has arrived at his dad's girlfriends house, but instead of going in, he has Jeantel check the TV to see if the game has started yet. Doesn't sound "frightened" to me, sounds like he's wondering if he'll miss the the kickoff if he takes the time to give this "creepy a-- cracka" who dared to look at him suspiciously an "a-- whoopin'." 7. Burly? Zimmerman was a short, geeky guy, hardly "burly". Martin towered over him, as we know by the 7-11 cameras and the cardboard cutouts in the closing arguments. 8. Zimmerman's injuries were entirely consistant with his life being threatened, as were his 45 seconds of screams on the 911 calls. He wasn't just lying there passively while Martin beat him up, he was struggling, squirming, screaming, trying get away. Have you ever tried fighting for your life? You can only fight for so long before you're completely spent. And when Martin felt the gun under his leg, realized what it was and reached for it, Zimmerman knew he had to get it first or he was dead. 9. During the "wrestling match" Martin had Zimmerman overpowered and was on top holding him down, pummeling him and banging his head on the sidewalk. There was no question that Martin was the stronger of the two. Do you think for one second that if Zimmerman tried to "train the gun on Martin", Martin wouldn't have just grabbed it away and shot him with it? 10. The forensic evidence showed clearly that the gun was NOT pressed into Martin's chest, the sweatshirt was draped against it, but Martin's chest was several inches away from the muzzle, consistent with everything Zimmerman said. 11. If he wanted to kill Martin, why wouldn't Z just do it while he supposedly stalked him? Why wait until Martin had broken his nose and banged his head till it split open and bled? Why would he scream desperately for help for 45 seconds first? Or assuming you believe that Martin was the one screaming despite all the evidence, why would he allow Martin to desperately scream for help for 45 seconds before shooting him? The fact is, it was Zimmerman who was being beat up, Zimmerman who screamed for help, and Zimmerman who restrained himself from pulling the gun until he had no other choice. This article is a joke.
I'm glad this writer wasn't on the jury, since he apparently didn't watch any of the testimony before making up his facts. 1. Martin was suspicious because he was walking in the dark, in pouring rain, close to the backs of peoples houses where he could see into the windows. Whether or not he was actually doing anything illegal is immaterial--he was behaving in a way that evoked suspicion in an observer, and that is perfectly reasonable grounds for a call for police to come check, especially in a community that had suffered multiple break-ins and robberies--over one a month for the past year. 2. The dispatcher did not order Zimmerman to stay in his car, and neighborhood watch did not either. Zimmerman had been out of his car for some time before the dispatcher asked him about it, and when he told Zimmerman he didn't need to follow Martin, Zimmerman's answer was, "okay." 3. Zimmerman didn't "have delusions he was in law enforcement", he had concerns for his community and a willingness to voluteer and work for its safety, something we need from far more people, not something to disparage. 4. He didn't "track Martin through the community", he tried to see which way Martin went. It was clear from the dispatcher's recording that Zimmerman didn't see Martin and didn't know where he went when he ran off after circling Zimmerman's truck and staring at him. 5. The prosecution presented no evidence whatsoever that Zimmerman was lying and had started the confrontation, just proposed a theory and then repeated it endlessly. The evidence shown supported Zimmerman's statements, not the prosecution's groundless theory.
Can't call illegal aliens what they are, but we don't mind insulting everyone else. When I had to fly last week, I had my hands swabbed for chemicals and had to stand spread eagled while they scanned me in that machine. I'm a greying, grandmother age lady who loves people and loves America, but I get treated like a criminal and profiled for extra searches every time I fly because I look polar opposite from a terrorist and so they can say they aren't profiling. It's sad and humiliating and makes me angry. When I was a kid I loved going to the airport--we could watch the airplanes load from the deck on top of the building and greet people at the gates as they came of the plane. Now it's just a constant reminder of all the freedom that is gone for good.
Good!!! Since their importations were unregulated, why should their deportations be any different?
Why do you support and abet corruption?
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