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Chevy Volt: Solyndra on Wheels

mkat68 Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 2:59 PM
Some thoughts to consider about electric cars: 1. Electric cars will never replace gasoline cars until they are as powerful, efficient and cost-effective as gasoline cars. The media has been saying for nearly 100 yrs that they will be - hasn't happened yet. 2. The infrastructure to support the gasoline car has been in place for over 100 yrs, and cannot be dismantled in a day. Likewise, the infrastructure to support electric cars will not spring up overnight. 3. Using electric cars will place an even greater burden on our electricity-generating capacity. Where will all this extra power come from? Increasing the number of electric cars on the road while shutting down power plants is not exactly a smart thing to do.
AliveInHim Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:22 PM
But, but...at least everyone will know how much we 'caaaare' about the planet!!
AliveInHim Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 3:47 PM
So you don't think it might be smarter to develop our own resources instead of engaging in a rather expensive brand of moral one-upmanship? Please. It takes MORE energy to produce, drive, and maintain these things than it does a conventional vehicle. Plus, the financial payoff on them is longer than most people would own one.

My Expedition is 10 years old, in good shape, long since paid for, and has more heart than any hybrid.

Damned if I'll feel guilty driving it.


talltexanoilfieldtrash Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 4:34 PM
Jim-NJ, stop drinking the kool-aid. You are so wrong!
AliveInHim Wrote: Sep 13, 2012 4:36 PM
I get about 18-20 mpg, thanks, and I ask no one to pay for it. And it IS true that it takes more energy to produce, drive, maintain and dispose of a hybrid.

Once again, we are not in the ME for oil, but for other reasons. Of course, you do realize that the gas I put in my vehicle is from the same source from which you fuel your Volt, don't you...? Our oldest DS had two tours in Iraq when he was a Marine-so I don't need you to give me lessons in morality.

What's to feel guilty about, again...?
Tired in Texas Wrote: Sep 14, 2012 2:50 PM
I am the parent of one of those servicewomen, and cannot comprehend purchasing a car that costs almost as much as my house. Also, I financed my house on a 30 year note. I doubt I would find a bank willing to give me a 30 year loan to purchase a Chevy Volt. Plus, though I wouldn't be buying as much gasoline, I would be paying for the electricity to charge the car, which would probably cost as much or more. And how would that electricity be generated? Probably by a plant that uses combustibles. So that is a lose-lose.
"I absolutely love my Chevy Volt."

That's what the smug guy in the TV commercial says when he's praising the virtues of his plug-in hybrid and boasting that he hasn't seen a gas pump in months.

You might love your Chevy Volt, too -- if you could afford to buy one.

The GM Volt, aka the Green Edsel, is not just an overly engineered, overly expensive, overweight and impractical car than runs on electricity and gasoline.

It's a Solyndra on Wheels. The Volt only exists because it's been so heavily discounted by GM...