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Side note: No religion in the history of the world -- including Islam -- has ever killed as many people as were killed by the atheist regimes of Robespierre, Stalin, and Mao. Over the course of 400 years, the Spanish Inquisition killed about 4000 people. 4000 terrible tragedies, of course. But did a DAY go by that Stalin didn't kill 4000 people? If he found that it had, he probably would have had his executioners arrested and killed for failing to do their jobs.
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Exploiting the 'Sex Box'

mjohansen Wrote: Aug 29, 2014 1:40 PM
When I was a kid in the 1970s and 80s, we had 7 different TV stations. Today I have something like 200 TV stations. And the main difference I've noticed is that it now takes me a whole lot longer to figure out that there is nothing on worth watching.
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The Continued Farce

mjohansen Wrote: Aug 29, 2014 12:27 PM
Here we go again: "the debate is over and we won". Sorry, but you don't win a debate by putting your hands over your ears and shouting "I win! I win! I win!" over and over. That's not how either science or politics works. That's how 5 year-olds try to win debates.
I think it would have been better still if the restaurant had made a statement somewhere to the effect of, "If you want great bacon, come to Sneakers. If you don't eat bacon, come to Sneakers anyway, we have lots of things on the menu. If you can't tolerate the idea of others eating bacon, go to some Islamofascist dictatorship where you belong."
Bizarre to say that "It’s a fascinating place with lots of opportunities for conversation.” For the whole thrust of the Muslim's objection was that she does not want to allow a "conversation". Anyone who disagrees with her must shut up, and they must shut up NOW.
Ah yes, "established science" and "the debate is over". Obviously the debate is not over as we are still debating the question. Are these people 6 years old? You don't win a debate by putting your hands over your ears and shouting "I win! I win! I win!" over and over. You win a debate by presenting evidence that convinces your audience. And they haven't done that.
So people from liberal states move to conservative state because the economies there are so much better ... and then they promptly proceed to try to change those policies to those of the states they fled. Hmm. But I'm sure the just can't comprehend that what makes these states successful is the very policies they despise. I recall a conversation I had with a Canadian years ago -- when the U.S. had a more conservative government and Canada a more liberal one -- in which he said that the U.S. was only able to survive capitalism because it was living in an "economic bubble" unaffected by the problems of the rest of the world. The idea that maybe the U.S. was in this "economic bubble" BECAUSE of capitalism literally never occurred to him. The U.S. was rich for reasons that he couldn't comprehend or explain, and it was only this mysterious wealth that allowed it to support a capitalist economy.
If a conservative does something that is obviously motivated conservative ideology, that is "politics". If a liberal does something that is obviously motivated by liberal ideology, that is "common sense", "pragmatism", or "the business of governing".
Freedom and responsibility? What are you, some whacked out radical extremist?
Here we go again. Democrats push through a wildly unpopular, massive socialist program, and Republicans respond by saying, "Maybe we can nibble around the edges a little." Once more, the Democrats announce a plan to destroy the country in 10 years, and Republicans respond with an alternative that they promise will take at least 20 years to destroy the country.
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