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Pastor to Taunt IRS Over Free Speech

Missourimule2 Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 9:37 PM
Wrong, wrong and wrong. Christ did not establish the church to be a political force in the community or the country, and the fact that some churches do it, and get away with it, doesn't mean that those who don't are shirking their duty. Those who push the church toward a more active political role are simply weakening the church - demeaning and misrepresenting its mission. The minister who is chafing at the bit to stand up in front of his flock and preach politics would be best suited looking for a new career - as a politician, perhaps.
jthomas855 Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 11:25 PM
We are doing both - My pastor will win House seat in Oklahoma. Several of our congregation are city councilmen , county clerk and higher. Oklahoma's District Attorney preys on his knees with the pastor in the office every week. You see, a pastor should lead by example. What are we supposed to do? The Bible says to " fight the good fight" Jesus said to pick up the cross. You see, we have to get involved. We believe God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak . Not to act is to act. 50,000,000 babies die and where was the church. WHERE WHERE THE PASTORS? Thats a moral issue, sir, not political.
1847 Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 10:34 PM
What has politics got to do with doing that which is right and good. A proper Pastor is one that tells his congregation not to support Ungodly people. why would anyone want to be ruled over by evil people.
aaletheia Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 10:04 PM
Although you make a valid point in that politics is not the main mission of the church, it must be stated that the church is the light of the world. You don't light a candle then place it under a basket to hide it. You put it on a stand so that it's light illuminates the whole room.
Likewise, Christians are the salt of the earth. If we lose our savor (preservative qualities) we are useless.
Politics in a Democratic Republic is fair game for sermons. Through politics the future fate of the country is determined in respect to morality, economics, and the other issues. The church does have a voice in all of those things.
Also, you don't lose your rights when you walk through a church door. Pastors do not lose their rights behind the pulpit.
jthomas855 Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 11:46 PM
Thats right. Pastors pay all their tax's just like you and me. Its the church that is 5013c

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