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Obama Cares About Big Bird Not Real Birds

Milt37 Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:08 PM
Steve, Ignoring your pointless attack on the Koch brothers, where in CA do you live? I happen to live in Livermore, the gateway to the Altamont Pass Wind Project. Whenever I'm at a higpoint and look through the pass, it disgusts me to see all those thosuands (or more) acres of rolling hills visually polluted by wind turbines. I've been living here for over a year and it's rare when a I see more than a handful of them actually spinning.
Jay Wye Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 6:28 PM
nuclear power makes far more sense. research thorium reactors.
Steve of CA Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 5:15 PM
yes I was educated in private and public schools -- I prefer public, but that is a different issue. Supporting wind energy or solar power is not socialist but common sense for the long term health of our planet
YESWECAN Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 3:46 PM
Steve
You are very ignorant. You must have been educated at Gov't schools. Take a course in economics and converse with people that have learned from others. You are in a socialist rut.
Marita Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 2:18 PM
Milt, my brother lives in Livermore. I'll be there over Christmas.
Milt37 Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:19 PM
Here's another thought. All the simplistic, and sometimes flawed atmospheric models that are used are touted as the final answer to CO2's danger.

I'm not aware of any model that accounts for massive windfarms throughout the country. See, there's this pesky thing call conservation of energy which can never be violated. Wind turbines remove energy from the atmosphere whenever they are spinning. It's very conceivable that if wind turbines were to exist in the quantities needed to provide any significant amount of the world's energy requirements, they would effect weather patterns more than any real or imagined effects from fossil fuels.
It' called unintended consequences.

The number of days until the election can now be counted on both hands. Regardless of the outcome, we know one issue will be buried under the fiscal-cliff news—where it hopes to fly under the radar. This one issue? The extension of the Production Tax Credit (PTC) for wind energy—which is bound to be present in lame-duck session negotiations, as it is currently scheduled to expire on December 31.

Using taxpayer dollars, the PTC supposedly “makes wind power more competitive with other sources of electricity”—though wind energy is still more expensive than traditionally fueled electricity and raises the costs...

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