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America Is Two Countries, Not on Speaking Terms

miketurnerusa Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 1:42 PM
Barone hits on a good point. I'm an NPR listening liberal who cant understand where the other side is coming from and I sometimes come to Townhall for clues. I understand the attraction of small government equals more liberty, but then why in the next breath do conservatives call for restrictions on liberties such as limits to birth control, what we can smoke, and who we can marry? They also want an expansion of religion into government which would seem to also limit freedom for those of different religions. Small government right?
cajunlady1947 Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 4:02 PM
I agree with David 439 on the birth control. No problem-just don't ask us to pay for it. Pay for the extra coverage yourself. Agree also on the marriage issue. Who cares, as long as both are adults? I believe that when government orders us to buy something, pay for others to buy it, pay for something we morally are against, then that's too much government. Maybe we need to divide this country down the middle and let all liberals live on one side with their big government and ditto for conservatives with their small government. Then things might work out. For sure, they're not working out now.
Becca in TX Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 4:14 PM
cajun-The red states need to secede and set up our own government and actually USE the Constitution. Then the blue states can do what they want, but at least they'll quit controling the rest of us.
Becca in TX Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 2:28 PM
mike-no conservative has called for restrictions on birth control. We just don't want the government telling private companies what they MUST cover. I don't really understand why this is a big deal. I used birth control when I didn't want to get pregnant. I got a prescription and filled it. They're not expensive. It never occurred to me that someone else should pay for it. `As for "who you can marry", I don't care what you do in private. Gays are the ones wanting something changed. Marriage is really a religious institution and most religions don't appprove. If they'd agree with "civil unions" I wouldn't have a problem with it. How do we want to expand religion into government? I just want the government to stay out of religion.
miketurnerusa Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 3:45 PM
1) Marriage a religious institution maybe only in recent history. Not all cultures consider it religious even if most americans do, not all. 2) abortion is birth control. 3) Relieved you say that some republicans believe in church state separation cause not all do.
David439 Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 4:17 PM
1) thus getting government out of marriage - define it for yourself
2) abortion is outside the scope of what I was talking about. Pro-lifers and pro-choicers are not going to see eye-to-eye on that one. Nothing good will come of broaching that topic here.
3) nothing to add to #3 :^)
David439 Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 1:52 PM
I can only speak for myself, but the only limit on birth control that I favor is that you pay for it yourself. Regarding marriage, I would be just as happy to get the government out of the marriage business altogether. Who are they to say anything about my relationship? I am not sure what you mean by expansion of religion into government - you'll have to be more specific.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 2:00 PM

miketurnerusa is a Kool Aid sucker. Going to NPR for your clue is pure lunacy.
miketurnerusa Wrote: Nov 07, 2012 3:32 PM
The opposite. Just trying hard to understand.

You know who won the election (or whether we face another Florida 2000), and as I write I don't.

But whether Barack Obama is re-elected to a second term or Mitt Romney is elected the 45th president, the contours of their support during this fiercely fought campaign show that we live in Two Americas.

The culturally cohesive America of the 1950s that some of us remember, usually glossing over racial segregation and the civil rights movement, is no longer with us and hasn't been for some time.

That was an America of universal media, in which everyone watched one of three...