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Gay Troops March in Gay Pride Parade in Military Uniform

micah17 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:19 AM
I served for 8 years in the Navy, am straight and married, but you're a fool if you think gays were not in the military before it became "legal". Personally I think gays are born that way and couldn't "choose" to be straight anymore than I could choose to be gay. I also don't have a problem with gays serving or working wherever they choose. They were given full permission to march in the parade by the Defense Department so nobody violated the UCMJ. I seriously hope none of you bigots have a family member who is gay :( It's liberal policies that will destroy america, not gay people. Get over it already!
pow1000 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:28 AM
I dont believe you're straight or were in the Navy. There is a limit of behavoir in the military, like decorum. They could march in civilian clothes, but to wear issued uniforms in this spectacle (and in most places it is a SPECTACLE) it lacks military decorum. Constantly pushing it down people's throat dosnt help either. Clintons "dont ask dont tell" worked. It it aint broke, dont fix it, and fix it, and fix it.
mfischer Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 11:42 AM
Served from 1990 to 1998 as an Operations Specialist. I could list my entire history in the Navy and link you to photo albums of my wife and kid but I have nothing to prove to you. I do completely agree that they shouldn't give special permission for any group to participate in a political parade and they need to change the USCM and give the right to everyone if they are going to go that route.

I also agree that gay people do tend to be more boisterous about being gay than straight people do about being straight.
mfischer Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 11:43 AM
typo, UCMJ is what they need to change.
Patriot155 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:26 AM
I do have a family member, my cousin, whose gay. I would give him the shirt off my back if he needed it, but, NO, I don't condone or agree with his lifestyle.
Patriot155 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:27 AM
Nor do, I think that it should be tolerated in the military, anymore than adultry, porn, drunk on duty,....etc.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:24 AM
You can think gays are born that way all you want. It's still a misconception. Lots of "gays" have successfully changed to living normal lives. It's not a stretch like it would be for a "straight" person tp act "gay"; it's merely addressing a sexual abnormality that gets in the way of normal sexuality underneath. Granted, it's really difficult, but then many right things are.

Not accepting a sexual abnormality as "normal" is anything but bigotry. I never had a family member who was "gay," but I had a best friend who was. And many things I learned from him are exactly the kinds of things "gays" would try to deny are true.
micah17 Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:42 AM
I agree that "gays" can change to living what you define as a "normal" life which is what is socially acceptable and one of my best friends who is gay got married (to a woman) and has two wonderful kids but IMHO I still think he is gay. Most gays that I have known are not the flamboyant kind you see on TV. Most are just down to earth people who are attracted to the same sex.

I personally don't understand how gay person could "choose" to be gay due to only 9% of the population being gay. Why would anyone choose to limit their potential choices of a mate and be socially rejected?
DCM in FL Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 10:58 AM
"I personally don't understand how gay person could 'choose' to be gay"

People aren't born gay and they don't choose to be gay. Those are not the only choices. Once you get that you can understand a lot more.

Your friend hasn't had an "orientation reversal" because there is no such thing. He hasn't "become" anything else. He's merely stopped acting on a deep-seated behavioral issue, which hopefully is under control now.

mfischer Wrote: Jul 23, 2012 11:21 AM
Most psychologist don't treat homosexuality as a mental disorder. Yes there is reparative therapy to try to help homosexuals get rid of their unwanted same-sex longings but it usually is unsuccessful.

As I've said before no amount of "therapy" could make me attracted to the same sex so again why do you think "therapy" could make gays attracted to the opposite sex?

Do you think if you were born straight and the "majority" of the world was gay that "therapy" could make you "normal" in the majorities eyes???

Gay U.S. service members marched in the San Diego gay pride parade over the weekend fully decked out in their military issued uniforms.

Some of the loudest cheers Saturday at San Diego's gay pride parade were for active-duty troops marching in military dress, the first time that U.S. service members participated in such an event while in full uniform.

Dozens of soldiers, sailors, and Marines marched alongside an old Army truck decorated with a "Freedom to Serve" banner and a rainbow flag. They were joined by dozens more military personnel in civilian clothes,...