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An Evangelical Pope?

mhubbard Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 12:07 PM
After reading many of the comments, it is clear that the writers only know the Catholic Church as it is in America. Pope John Paul returned Africa to the practice of selling indulgences. In case you don't know what they are...buying forgiveness for sins that you intend to commit, but haven't yet. In areas of Mexico, Christians are openly persecuted and not allowed to have decent jobs. In Africa, priests are openly living with women and fathering children. In Africa, Catholicism was quickly accepted because the priests incorporated fetish worship into the mass. This was the constant in every country that the Catholic Church went in to. It was quickly accepted because it incorporated parts of the local belief system, no matter how
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 5:07 AM

Oh my;

I was preparing to accuse you of blatant lies; and now I guess you're a just complete imbecile.
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 3:30 AM

You can't be serious.

An indulgence does NOT forgive us our mortal sin; which leads only to damnation. In purgatory, a already suffering soul has been effectively pardoned before death by Gds and saved forever. But he must still suffer for what he did on earth. Jesus declares, "As you sow shall you reap." The pain of purgatory is this payment for what we sowed, and was not compensated for suffering in our lifetimes. It's punishment which indulgences end or curtail; God's infinite Justice! We gain them by sacrifices; one of which is payment of the stipend.

mhubbard Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 12:09 PM
against the Bible these practices were and are. Do your research and actually study what is happening in the Catholic Church in these other countries. Don't just accept what your local priest wiill tell you is happening. They are not going to admit to these practices. I have talked to people who have lived in these other areas. That is the type of research you need to do.
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 12:25 PM
The same thing has been happening to the RCC forever. Confessions to men, worship of Mary, chanting, the use of the word holy father....all unbiblical.
Troglodite Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 2:14 PM

To use an analogy from the poker table, "I will see your unbiblical and raise you a counter-biblical." With a very small number of honorable exceptions, Protestants seem to believe in the licitness of divorce and remarriage, though the New Testament says a clear "no" to that sort of thing. Oh well, I suppose that if you are "saved," that is one of things that you get a pass on, right?
Ryan_M Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 2:20 PM

Be careful. Your handle shows who you worship and it isn't God.
Akaky_Akakyevich Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 3:08 PM
So is the Trinity. Did it ever occur to you that the reason the Trinity never appears in the New Testament is that Jesus was a Jew and the idea of placing himself on the same level as God would be utterly repugnant to him?
Andy544 Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 3:24 PM
"I and the Father are one.." John 10:30 (the words of Jesus Christ) The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are ONE in essence, different in manifestation. We serve ONE GOD, Who manifests Himself in THREE separate ways.

The Trinity is in the FIRST VERSE of the Bible, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1 The Hebrew word for "God" is "Elohim" which is the PLURAL form for the Hebrew word for "God", "EL"..
Whitebeard Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 3:59 PM
Andy: Hello. Technically, I believe the word Elohim is categorized as a "compound unity." It would be similar to words like family, assembly, troop, or bureaucracy - all of which are in the singular form, and all of which imply plurality. So, there have to be at least two "members," so to speak of the Elohim. The Father's name was given to us as Yahweh; the Son's name as Yeshua.
Akaky_Akakyevich Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 5:52 PM
I and the Father are one could simply mean that Jesus agrees with the Torah, which, being a believing Jew, he hardly do otherwise. And no number is associated with Elohim; to say that the word supports the Trinitarian concept is an attempt to make the evidence fit an already arrived at conclusion.
Andy544 Wrote: Feb 17, 2013 7:02 PM
Read John 1, the 1st 18 verses, that describe the deity of JESUS CHRIST,as one with the Father from all eternity.
IsraelFirsterSecond Wrote: Feb 18, 2013 11:14 AM
Ryan, maybe your handle does as well.
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 3:45 AM


We are shown the Koly trinity in the gospes. The voice from Shekinah is our Almighty Father; in His sight below Jesus His son (Inwhom I am well-pleased, He says) and descening in the appearance of a dove above the head of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. Very much the Trinity, (Matt 3 ::14).
dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 3:48 AM

Pardon my typos and poor spelling. I'm slow to write, often get timed out, so I hurry and mess up.

dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 4:46 AM

We are shown the Holy Trinity in the gospels. The voice from the Shekinah is our Almighty Father, in His sight below is Jesus His Son ("In whom I am well-pleased," He says) and, descending in the appearance of a dove above the head of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. ONE God; Very much the Trinity, (Matt 3 :14).

dreadnaught/13 Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 5:17 AM

When our Just Judge comes and you must answer for your sins, hubbard; we will see how your calumny is judged.

It never does us good to confront your kind of unholy slander. You are free in this life to smear God in His Church. If we cast pearls before swine like you, they'll turn and smash them underfoot, and attack us.

Your evil heart is duly recorded here; and God has noticed. I only pity you.

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