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The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

McGovern Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:56 AM
ericynot, How do you know radio waves exist? You can't see them or feel them. You can't show me a photograph of them. Yet we know they exist because we can place a radio on a table, turn it on, and listen to the results of the waves hitting the radio. How do I know Jesus exists? I can't see Him. I can't show you a photograph. Yet I know the effect He has had on my life. He is as real to me as radio waves are to you. Because you don't believe something does not make it untrue.
ericynot Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:34 AM

You are correct that "Because you don't believe something does not make it untrue." Likewise, because you DO believe in something does not make it true. A billion Muslims believe unquestioningly in the teachings of Muhammad. And I think every one of them is misled.

If you find comfort in your belief, that's fine by me, but I'll stick the things I can validate -- like radio waves.
McGovern Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 12:35 PM
You are correct. Because I believe something does not make it true.

But Jesus's effect in my life cannot be discounted by me.

That's what faith is.
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:24 AM
That cuts both ways though. Radio waves are not a good equivilent to the existance of Jesus or God or any holy figure for that matter. You could just as easily say that just because you can't see Allah or Thor doesn't mean they don't exist. They may not affect your life, but those effects are purely anecdotal. It doesn't prove anything outside your own belief and as you yourself stated, just because you don't believe something doesn't make it untrue.
traitorbill Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:20 AM
History books tell us that Jesus lived. His life fulfilled hundreds of prophecies proving that he is the Messiah. His message and miracles also validate him as our savior. There are no so blind as those who refuse to see. And the deceit of anti Christian bigots like toibin prove it.
A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...