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Dumb and Dumber Drones

Matt in N.C. Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 6:42 AM
To hell with Pakistan's imagined sovereignty over the tribal areas. If it had any, its armed forces would be able to go in and get Zawahiri or anyone else it chose. But I'm appalled by drones in domestic airspace and by hit lists, including American citizens, that Obama discusses with political operatives -- surely violations of AMERICAN sovereignty. Obama's opponents, however, are headed for a state of paralysis in which broad strikes are unacceptable because they kill our targets' human shields, and narrow strikes are unacceptable because they're assassinations. We need the other two branches of government to stop shirking, clarify the mission and its constitutionality, and rein in this clueless rogue president.
TexasChris Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 9:10 AM
Matt, in order to have US soverighnty, we must respect the sovereignty of other nations. We have no constitutional authirty to invade antoher country that has not already aggressed on the US, which Pakistan has not.

further, what the government does in war it eventually does at home, to its own people. Expect drones. They are the logical progression of red-light cameras, and a police state.
Jay Wye Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 2:54 PM
if Pakistan is NOT controlling their FATAs,they they do NOT have "sovereignity" over them,those lands are essentially lawless. Thus,anyone can do as they please there.
that is the reason we invaded Afghanistan;because the Taliban rulers of AF refused to either deal with al-Qaida themselves or allow us to deal with them. Instead,by allowing Al-Qaida to operate within their borders,they aided and abetted,and gave safe harbor to A-Qaida. We cannot and should not allow the same to happen in Pakistan.
ericynot Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 3:09 PM
Jay,

That misses the point. Pakistan is a volatile, semi-democratic Muslim country. They have a nuclear arsenal and an ongoing feud with next-door neighbor India. Besides the fact that our legally questionable drone attacks have all but closed down the Pakistani supply routes our troops in Afghanistan depend upon, we are jeopardising the stability of the Pakistani government. While their current government is an unreliable mess insofar as our interests are concerned, it could easily become far more radical and dangerous.

We need to stop stirring up the hornets nest before we wind up with a completely unmanageable situation.
Jay Wye Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 8:07 PM
The Taliban is as much a problem for them as it is for us,as proven by recent events.
If Pakistan continues to allow them a safe harbor in the FATAs(where they can cross into AF and make trouble for us) ,then they are not our friends. Perhaps we need to make that clear to them. As for their nukes,they are not deliverable to the US,and we probably have them under close watch.
ericynot Wrote: Jun 25, 2012 9:59 PM
Jay,

Doesn't matter whether or not they can FedEx a nuke to the U.S. If the loons take over, and either Pakistan or India freaks out and starts with the fireworks, the ensuing economic meltdown will take us down along with the rest of the world.

Drones are a smart way to start a trend on Twitter; D.C.-area drivers tweeted feverishly when they mistook the Navy’s X-47B drone traveling on a flatbed truck for a UFO. But the way President Obama employs drones is unconstitutional and therefore dumb with a capital ‘D.’

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