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There Ought Not to Be a Law

Maryann45 Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 11:16 AM
If this was a perfect world I would be a Libertarian too but I am aware of the fact that isn't. Therefore we need armies, government and controls.
Don't Tread On Me3 Wrote: Aug 16, 2012 12:08 PM
Libertarianism is not anarchy.
Don't Tread On Me3 Wrote: Aug 16, 2012 12:08 PM
Libertarianism is not anarchy.
GPeyton Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 11:56 AM
The absence of armies, government and controls is not libertarianism, it is anarchy. No libertarian argues against an army for defense, or a judicial system that enforces private property rights and contracts, among other things that promote individual liberty and individual rights.
Paulus Textor Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 11:24 AM
Ah, the "perfect world" logical fallacy.

No libertarian claims the world is "perfect." Nor do they claim the world would BECOME "perfect" under libertarian political systems.

In fact, it is precisely BECAUSE the world and human beings are "imperfect" that the primary human need is freedom of action (with the proviso, of course, that no one infringes the rights of others in pursuing their own self-interest).
ftorres Wrote: Aug 15, 2012 11:22 AM
Re: Maryann45,

"If this was a perfect world I would be a Libertarian too "

If this were a perfect world, I would be a Statist because I would then know that government is populated by veritable angels and not corrupt individuals, the most corrupt among us.

Your thinking is totally backwards. The very reason to be free is precisely that man is fallible. It is through freedom to interact and to KNOW that we can minimize the hazards and risks cused by thieves, cheats and liars. Instead, with a government, people tend to lower their guard, thinking that Daddy Government is there to protect them - leading to what we've seen for years.

I’m a libertarian in part because I see a false choice offered by the political left and right: government control of the economy -- or government control of our personal lives.

People on both sides think of themselves as freedom lovers. The left thinks government can lessen income inequality. The right thinks government can make Americans more virtuous. I say we’re best off if neither side attempts to advance its agenda via government.

Let both argue about things like drug use and poverty, but let no one be coerced by government unless he steals or attacks someone....