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What Ron Paul Gets Wrong

Mary218 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 7:55 AM
Definition of secede, per several dictionaries: se·cede (used without object), se·ced·ed, se·ced·ing. to withdraw formally from an alliance, federation, or association, as from a political union, a religious organization, etc. Wasn't this what the US did in the 1770's?
Paulus Textor Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 8:03 AM
Brief answer to your rhetorical question: YES.
AnneG Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 8:02 AM
No, in the 1770’s the colonies of the British crown declared independence. There was no federation. They were under direct control of his majesty's government and rule. It was not a mutually agreed alliance as the states are now.
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 8:14 AM
Anne: You're arguing synonyms, not reality.
TNCaver Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 8:33 AM
And the War of Northern Aggression proved that we have not been in a mutually agreed alliance since the mid-1800s. The states are now held by a federated central government at gun-point with no option to end their part in this so-called alliance.
Daniel30 Wrote: Nov 17, 2012 8:50 AM
Your point is well taken. The colonies under British rule were treated more as territories than sovereign states. That is why states have the authority under provisions within numerous original states entrance into the union to withdraw from the union. Several of the original states had provisions passed when entering the union that they could leave the union as sovereign states. When some norheastern states talked of secession during the War of 1812, it was largely acknowledged those states had the right to do so, but in the end they didn't. Early on secession was viewed as whether or not the union was voluntary or a tyranny. If the people were free, their states would have a right to secede. A union held by force was a tyranny.

Congressman Ron Paul has just delivered his valedictory address in the House of Representatives. And he has told TV interviewers that the American Revolution was a wonderful example of secession. He's a much better OB/GYN, I'm sure, than he is a student of America's history. He could be cited for political malpractice.

If the Founding Fathers and the Patriots who fought and won the Revolution were seceding, why is it that none of them ever called it secession? They certainly had the word back then. They invoked the well-known right of revolution. They had read their John Locke and their Montesquieu,...