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martialmensch Wrote: Mar 26, 2013 2:02 PM
Sure. Let's keep things like the were because the compassionate conservatives, aided by hospitals, HMOs and big pharma were doing such a stellar job! You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the butt. When a few major corporations control the country's entire health care system and do so in such a way that "healthcare" becomes all about "profit," then give me an alternative, and if you want to call it socialism, I'm good with that.
Alex_P Wrote: Mar 26, 2013 4:42 PM
care - did you? And how many of these tearful stories of the people getting bankrupt are really true?
Look at any area in health care that is not (yet, unfortunately) regulated, especially at any not covered by insurance, and notice how prices go down dramatically. Examples? Plastic surgery, for one. Lasik (until they started including it into insurance plans) for another.
And now compare it to socialist medicine; if you don't value your life, you can even try it on yourself - it is just 90 miles over the border. Of course, if you come visit and pay with $US (which is still, strangely, considered real money over there), it is a bit different from what the locals get. I know. On my skin.
Alex_P Wrote: Mar 26, 2013 4:35 PM
This is right there with "Dr. Strangelove or how I stopped fearing and learned to love Socialism".

OK, so I am not _karpe diem_ but I share his views, and I do know socialism first-hand. Having lived under it until almost 40, I would take cold market capitalism over socialism any time. If the government did not feel the need to stick their nose into all affairs, the market would have solved this long ago. Even with the f@ck-ups like restriction on selling insurance across state lines ("You don't know that they will sell you what you need! Trust us, we are from the government hre to help you!") etc., American health care is the wonder of the world.
I also did not see people dying on the streets because they were refused

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