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Support for Same-sex Marriage Crosses Party Lines

Mark in CA Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:48 PM
David0336 @ 04:40 a.m. posted: "I have yet to hear of even ONE way that gay marriage in any country or any state has damaged the institution." The detrimental effect gay marriage is having upon society is that endorsement of it is similar to endorsement and therefore encouragement to the populace to establish households in which children do not have good father and mother role models. Social research has demonstrated that children raised in households headed by a mom and a dad are less likely to have psychosocial problems than children raised in alternative "family" structures such as single parent families and/or households headed by homosexuals.
TommyMaq Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 4:47 PM
"Society" isn't a creature, which is why you stopped making sense in your first sentence.

"Encouraging the populace" is not the job of the government.

"Psychosocial problems" includes the imposition of bigoted policy by small-minded creeps via the law, so...why don't you sell Great Britains "Penal Laws" elsewhere?

Try not to talk like a marxist next time; the effort will show.

Now, the question was, what DAMAGE has been done?

No one cares which SENSIBILITY you feel offended about nor which PYCHOBABBLE BS you used to justify bigotry.
Mark in CA Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 6:33 PM
I'll refrain from addressing your ad hominem attacks, TommyMaq. I will point out that you are completely misrepresenting me by insinuating I was arguing that it is government's job to encourage the populace. I wasn't. But if you don't believe that government policies cannot have an encouraging or discouraging effect on people then you are incredibly naive.
Jack2894 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 3:00 PM
Mark, your conclusion isn't supported by your premises. Even if we all admit that an optimum scenario exists, there is no reason to think a sub-optimum option will affect the optimum. The scenario you describe already exists: a full 50% of all children will live in a single parent household at some time. How would gay marriage make that worse?
Mark in CA Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:50 PM
But you, Will and people like you don't want to see of hear anything about such studies, let alone use your basic observation skills to comprehend the damage that is being done to the nation's social structure. Furthermore, the APA and people like will do their utmost to stifle any research or researchers whose works run contrary to the homosexual narrative.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:54 PM
June 11, 2012
APA on Children Raised by Gay and Lesbian Parents

How do these children fare?

On the basis of a remarkably consistent body of research on lesbian and gay parents and their children, the American Psychological Association (APA) and other health professional and scientific organizations have concluded that there is no scientific evidence that parenting effectiveness is related to parental sexual orientation. That is, lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children. This body of research has shown that the adjustment, development and psychological well-being of children are unrelated to parental sexual orientation and that the children of lesbian an
Cambermeister Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:55 PM
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:55 PM
This body of research has shown that the adjustment, development and psychological well-being of children are unrelated to parental sexual orientation and that the children of lesbian and gay parents are as likely as those of heterosexual parents to flourish.


American Psychological Association

http://www.apa.org/news/press/response/gay-parents.aspx
Cambermeister Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 2:56 PM
There's not one scrap of evidence...anywhere...that two men are suitable to replace a man and woman.
But keep trying.
The studies are all hidden...even from you.
Anominus Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 3:03 PM
The APA is a politically-biased organization in favor of homosexuality. Anything they produce as "evidence" in this issue is laughable.
Jack2894 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 3:24 PM
SO we should take the word of the Family Research Council instead?
Anominus Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 3:52 PM
Only as much as you expect us to take the word of the APA.
du2 Wrote: Mar 18, 2013 5:04 PM
No research has been stifled, that proves children raised by a committed gay parent have such problems. There isn't any. None exists. And any other research meant to claim that gay parents damage their children, tends to not involve any gay parents or comparable situations to het parents. If you have to claim a conspiracy by gay people of any kind, then that usually proves you have no evidence of it. Gay parents and adults have been bringing their kids with them to courts and legislative panels. PROVING their children are as healthy, active and well cared for as any other children. Even their children with special needs. Eventually, making stuff up gets you having to prove it. And so far, your side isn't doing it.
In an opinion article in the Columbus Dispatch, Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman announced that he has changed his mind and now supports same-sex marriage.

He wrote that on learning that one of his sons is gay he "wrestled with how to reconcile my Christian faith with my desire for Will to have the same opportunities to pursue happiness and fulfillment as his brother and sister."

He is not the only prominent Republican to come to this view in this way. Former Vice President Dick Cheney is another.

And at the Conservative Political Action Committee convention, a panel sponsored by the...