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The Flathead Society

Marinero Wrote: Dec 09, 2009 6:04 AM
"As has been explained above, the word 'trick' is frequently used to describe a mathematical algorithm or transposition method, just as the word 'manipulate' is often used in entirely 'innocent' contexts..."

Thank you, Philip, for this cogent and concise explanation. Tell me, since you are obviously an expert on scientific jargon, just what exactly do scientists mean when they say "hide," as in "to hide the decline"? How about "we can't explain," and "travesty," as in "we can't explain the decline, and it's a travesty that we can't"? Please, enlighten us. We're waiting.
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The Flathead Society

Marinero Wrote: Dec 09, 2009 5:42 AM
"After noting that data has been gathered from literally thousands of data sets and not just from one data set, WFalicoff notes that 'A little bit of knowledge is dangerous and apparently much of the right wing media has limited knowledge on the subject. Dr. Weinstein certainly has more credibility than Mr. Thomas. He is among a minority on the subject, which includes respected scientists such as Dr. Lindzen of MIT. If a few respected scientists opinion are worth more that the opinions of thousands of other respected scientists, than the US Surgeon General would never have declared cigarettes dangerous to your health.'

Very well stated!

PHILIP CHANDLER"

Oh really? Does it matter how many scientists "believe"...
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The Flathead Society

Marinero Wrote: Dec 09, 2009 5:25 AM
" 'The 2000-2009 decade will be the warmest on record, with its average global surface temperature about 0.54 °C (0.96 °F) above the 20th Century average. This will easily surpass the 1990s value of 0.36 °C (0.65 °F).'

Does Dr. Weinstein have access to a different database that he draws his conclusions from? And what database is this?"

Maybe it's the same database that led one of the CRU scientists to say (I'm paraphrasing) "The fact is, we cannot explain the decline, and it's a TRAVESTY that we can't!"

"Is he disputing the NOAA report?"

Far be it from anyone to dispute the NOAA report! Why, that would be just as bad as disputing what the honest fellows at East Anglia have to say!

"Do not believe...
"Post some of the lesson plan for us. I'll interpret for you."

Will, dude, we're not interested in your interpretation of anything. You see, Will, we don't agree with your views, or those of unbalanced or any of the other trolls around here. We know that Osama’s "change" is nothing more than the same tired old liberal ideas that have been shown repeatedly to be dismal failures (I suggest you Google "Soviet Union" for starters).

You and unbalanced are angry and scared. You let Oprah Winfrey and Hollywood select your Golden Boy, a man who himself said in 2004 that he was not qualified to run for President in 2008, and now you see for yourselves what a dismal failure he is. You have seen that he is clueless, as he...
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Global Warming in the Hot Seat

Marinero Wrote: Dec 06, 2009 9:41 PM

Just in time for the death of global warming... er, I mean "climate change," it's acid oceans! Caused by man, of course, and requiring world government and socialism to combat it. Never mind that marine life has survived for millions of years, through every kind of climate and times when no doubt, the CO2 was higher than it is today. Why, acid oceans now have their very own movie, narrated by Sigourney Weaver, an environut if ever there was one. Yes folks, the death of all marine life is imminent and it has been conclusively proven that we, with our greedy capitalist ways, are at fault. We must act IMMEDIATELY and institute worldwide socialism, the only thing that can save our fragile Mother Gaia.
"Will

Why are you so concerned about saving this planet when you live on another?"

Classic, priceless hilarious, BRILLIANT :-)

From the leaked emails: "I would like to see the climate change happen so the science could be proved right." Give it up, libs.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9CBVM701&show_arti cle=1

His Excellency, Count Eduardo Markey, convened the meeting to discuss the “urgent, consensus view on our planetary problem: as everyone agrees, the earth is flat. Therefore, the insolent mariner Christopher Columbus will surely fall off the face of the planet once he reaches the end. This will cause great loss of property belonging to Their Royal Highnesses, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella! This 'Round Earth' madness must be squelched at once! WE HAVE A CONSENSUS!"

and global warming is not "climate change." See, "climate change" leaves open the possibility of global cooling, which the global warmists always maintained wasn't happening... until it was. So now, it's "climate change." But not to worry, we can always use Mike's Nature Trick to hide the decline. Then we can call it global warming again!

It's all a word game with liberals... er, I mean, "progressives."
"Or does this apply only to Cons issues against Liberals? Con logic is so confusing."

I admire your newfound belief in consistency. I'm so glad to have you on our side in demanding that Barack Obama immediately make public his birth certificate and college records!

By the way, recent polls indicate that a screen name change is in order for you. I suggest "intheminority."
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