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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 11:55 AM
Bush is not a bad person, in fact he is perhaps the best person to ever be a President. Problem is we shouldn't be talking as Bush the man but rather Bush as a President. Bush allowed for obama to be elected, and for supremacy of Liberal thought that we see today. He done this due to his inability to speak well and defend Conservative ideas. Though out his Presidency he believed that right will triumph over lies, without understand that Politics is all about well phrase lie. If you can not defend in the media your ideas your opponent will destroy them. He continued to ignore the Press attacks, allowing them to build the pervasive myth that is Bush today (worse Economy, not responding to Katrina etc..).
Jeff_Georgia Wrote: Apr 30, 2013 2:38 PM
"best person to ever be a President." Really? Kidding, right?
Jeff_Georgia Wrote: Apr 30, 2013 2:37 PM
"best person to ever be a President." Really? Kidding, right?
1375 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:42 PM
The first thing you need to do is stop blaming Bush for everything.
Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:55 PM
Me? I am hardly blaming him for everything, I am talking about perception and reality of Bush.

I voted for Bush twice (although not in the Primaries) and I admire the man as a man.
However just because I am life long Republican, doesn't mean I won't criticize him, and that should go for everybody.

GOP Could use a nice long "looking in the mirror session". We don't have a lot of time to save this country and we won't until we learn what is wrong with ourselves first.
Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:01 PM
Most people today are convinced that the lies the Press told were how things really were.
In addition Bush was no Conservative, and allowed Republican Congress which became Washingtonized to pass some dubious spending bills (Spending did increase dramatically under GOP Congress and majority of that were NOT worse which were relatively "cheap", 2T over 10 years to be exact).

Bush, when compared line by line to JFK was more of a Democrat than a Republican. While today, given how far left Democrats are, he appears like a Conservative his ideology in fact is that of Welfare State and by no means Free Markets. This was the whole point of the "Compassionate Conservatism" nonsense that he promoted.

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:05 PM
This robbed the GOP of having a leg to stand on in regards to being a "conservative" party, a party of small Governments. General voter maybe completely naive and without understanding of issues, but they do tend to see that there is very little difference in effect between GOP and Democrats (especially with the MSM help).

So the bottom line, was Bush a good President? The answer to it must be said as "NO". He allowed far too much to happen under his watch that undermines the values and stated purpose of the Conservative agenda.

Now if we compare him to obama? Well in that case he is the best President we ever had, but that sets the bar awfully low. Especially given that without Bush there wouldn't be obama.
Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:06 PM
Overall given such gems as: Wilson, FDR, Hoover, Nixon, Carter, etc..?

I would place him right down the middle. Nothing to be proud of but nothing to hide our heads about either, especially given the alternative of Gore (God save us) or Kerry.

That certainly seems to be the general consensus on the Left. Consider, for example, this piece by the Washington Post’s Ezra Klein. Responding to Keith Hennessey’s must-read editorial debunking the so-called “Bush is stupid” myth (a contention, I might add, he doesn’t necessarily dispute), Klein had this to say about our 43th president:

But all this just goes to show that raw intelligence is overrated. Bush was smart. Plenty of the people around him were smart. But he was a bad president. Presidential scholars rank him 38th — and, remember, there have only been 43 presidents (Barack...