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PS, the whole notion is wrong in the first place. There is no such thing as a "Right Price" in goods or labor (Economics 101). To put it simpler you are worth what others are willing to pay for you. There somehow developed an idea (well OK I know the History of such but lets not get crazy here) that a person is worth X or Y. That is nonsense. College also doesn't automatically add any $ to your worth (it does take some away though), it is a tool that hopefully will help you and nothing more. There is no such thing, in other words, as "underemployed". Its a crazy idea without any economical justificatin.
I hate the whole notion of such a thing. Majority of people today get degress in Liberal Arts such as "Racial Studies", etc. Such degrees are not useful in a market place, and as such those who get them (except for those few who can get into teaching) start 5 years behind others in terms of a work force. Therefore they start at the bottom. We as a society are pushing College like it is some sort of magic dust. It isn't, collegel is a simple tool to learn needed skills. Notice the importance of NEEDED. Engineers, for instance, are hardly ever "under employed", as are all those who get good degrees. The first thing we should do is not push our kids towards college, but rather we should help them first discover what they are good...
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Liberal Suffering and Confusion

Marek3 Wrote: May 01, 2013 3:27 PM
inability but rather someone elses fault. This practice is as old as time, perfected in America by FDR who used it to win 3 elections (36,40,45). Trouble is sooner or later this always results in violence and war. This is already happening in America, and sooner or later will truly errupt.
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Liberal Suffering and Confusion

Marek3 Wrote: May 01, 2013 3:26 PM
inability but rather someone elses fault. This practice is as old as time, perfected in America by FDR who used it to win 3 elections (36,40,45). Trouble is sooner or later this always results in violence and war. This is already happening in America, and sooner or later will truly errupt.
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Liberal Suffering and Confusion

Marek3 Wrote: May 01, 2013 3:25 PM
Except Assimilation is not what a Liberal is looking for. They are, quite on purpose, dividing people and putting them into groups (well the politicians and leaders anyway, not your average brain dead Liberal). When you have people in groups you can pit one against another, you can build group politics and thereby being able to appeal to a single issue and stroke a single ego, and decry any change as "racist). Hence the -American isn't a means to be PC bur rather is means to A. seperate them as unique individuals, who are not American but their own "kind" B. Give them they own identies and be able to refer to group not an individual for any policies/grievances. C. Imply that any personal problem you had wasn't a result of your own...
Heck I personally will donate at least 1K dollars for him to play golf ever day for the next 40 years, as long as he stops pretending he is a President and stop trying to push his idiotic agenda.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:55 PM
Me? I am hardly blaming him for everything, I am talking about perception and reality of Bush. I voted for Bush twice (although not in the Primaries) and I admire the man as a man. However just because I am life long Republican, doesn't mean I won't criticize him, and that should go for everybody. GOP Could use a nice long "looking in the mirror session". We don't have a lot of time to save this country and we won't until we learn what is wrong with ourselves first.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:06 PM
Overall given such gems as: Wilson, FDR, Hoover, Nixon, Carter, etc..? I would place him right down the middle. Nothing to be proud of but nothing to hide our heads about either, especially given the alternative of Gore (God save us) or Kerry.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:05 PM
This robbed the GOP of having a leg to stand on in regards to being a "conservative" party, a party of small Governments. General voter maybe completely naive and without understanding of issues, but they do tend to see that there is very little difference in effect between GOP and Democrats (especially with the MSM help). So the bottom line, was Bush a good President? The answer to it must be said as "NO". He allowed far too much to happen under his watch that undermines the values and stated purpose of the Conservative agenda. Now if we compare him to obama? Well in that case he is the best President we ever had, but that sets the bar awfully low. Especially given that without Bush there wouldn't be obama.
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Was George W. Bush a "Bad" President?

Marek3 Wrote: Apr 29, 2013 12:01 PM
Most people today are convinced that the lies the Press told were how things really were. In addition Bush was no Conservative, and allowed Republican Congress which became Washingtonized to pass some dubious spending bills (Spending did increase dramatically under GOP Congress and majority of that were NOT worse which were relatively "cheap", 2T over 10 years to be exact). Bush, when compared line by line to JFK was more of a Democrat than a Republican. While today, given how far left Democrats are, he appears like a Conservative his ideology in fact is that of Welfare State and by no means Free Markets. This was the whole point of the "Compassionate Conservatism" nonsense that he promoted.
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