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You are right about the corrosive influence of the entertainment industry: This is from an article by jon stonstreet ---------------------------------------------------------------- When Hillary Clinton claimed there was a “vast right-wing conspiracy” against her husband, many conservatives just laughed. “Work together?” many of us thought. “She apparently doesn’t know conservatives as well as she thinks she does.” But Jonathan Chait, writing last week in the left-leaning New York magazine claims there’s actually a vast left-wing conspiracy, but this conspiracy isn’t located in Washington D.C. This conspiracy, Chait argues, comes from Hollywood, which is “mainly transmitting an ethos in which greed is not only bad but the main wellspring of evil, authority figures of all kinds are often untrustworthy, sexual freedom is absolute, and social equality of all kinds is paramount.” Chait goes on: “You don’t have to be an especially devoted consumer of film or television to detect a pervasive, if not total, liberalism.” He then points to “the modern family in Modern Family, not to mention the girls of Girls and the gays of Glee…” as evidence. In the end, Chait concludes that “the uncomfortable reality is that the culture war is an ongoing liberal rout. Hollywood is as liberal as ever, and conservatives have simply despaired of changing it.” ...We have tended to see the culture wars as being primarily a battle of ideas, which almost exclusively takes place in the political sphere. But as we often say ... politics is downstream from culture. Politics is most often a reflection of cultural values, not a source of them. This is precisely why social liberals have been so successful in re-defining cultural values. They see the battle of ideas as a battle for the imagination that takes place in all cultural spheres, especially the arts. As Rod Dreher said in response to Chait’s observations, “The Right only knows how to make arguments; the Left knows how to make art.”
The PC squad: Ridicule, intimidate and denigrate anyone who does not support the sacred cows of the 'progressive left.'
Are you not aware that what Michael Brown was highlighting was that many of the enlightened' supporters of treat those who disagree with them with hostility, contempt and derision? Or maybe you agree with that actually. Classical liberalism: "I may not agree with what you say but would fight to the death for your right to say it." 'progressivism' : Do not express anything that does not comport with the scared cows of political correctness or you will be demonized, ostracized and we will do whatever we can to silence you.
And to add to that, the scarcity of this type of litigation before the SSM tsunami is evidenced by the fact that the two cases you mentioned above happened AFTER Obama refused to defend DOMA and the SC Windsor decision (they didn't happen in 2004 or something). Only now do you start to hear more about these cases, with increasing frequency, LGBT activist having been emboldened and undoubtedly targeting religious business owners to seek to 'punish' them for their views.
And the point is their 1st amendment right to freedom of religion (Not freedom of worship which is the leftist phony replacement) should have protected them from any litigation as they were being asked to do something that violated their consciences. Their was no animus. There actions were not irrational. I look at these matters over and above what someone says the "law is." The judge in one of those cases essentially said that the price of citizenship is to check your religious beliefs at the door. The hubris for someone to say this astounding. More astounding is for anyone to agree with that it is acceptable for the apparatus of the state to force a person to violate their conscience just because they run a business.
sorry about multiple postings.
"And yes you know that would happen whether same sex couples get legal recognition for their marriages or they don't get the recognition" Huh? Uh, actually no. I did not see it happening when there were only civil union. It's happening precisely because of the redefining of marriage was rushed into, such that anyone who has a good conscience agreement with it and tries to live within the dictates of their conscience in all facets of life is 'punished' now with the apparatus of the state. People who are rabid about wanting to make SSM legal are more often that not wanting to have true and effective safeguards in place for those who disagree, because they see their disagreement as 'irrational' or based on 'animus' and not worthy or deserving of protection. Are you in that camp? You can't seriously deny that massive amounts of 'progressives' are.
"And yes you know that would happen whether same sex couples get legal recognition for their marriages or they don't get the recognition" Huh? Uh, actually no. I did not see it happening when there were only civil union. It's happening precisely because of the redefining of marriage was rushed into, such that anyone who has a good conscience agreement with it and tries to live within the dictates of their conscience in all facets of life is 'punished' now with the apparatus of the state. People who are rabid about wanting to make SSM legal are more often that not wanting to have true and effective safeguards in place for those who disagree, because they see their disagreement as 'irrational' or based on 'animus' and not worthy or deserving of protection. Are you in that camp? You can't seriously deny that massive amounts of 'progressives' are.
"And yes you know that would happen whether same sex couples get legal recognition for their marriages or they don't get the recognition" Huh? Uh, actually no. I did not see it happening when there were only civil union. It's happening precisely because of the redefining of marriage was rushed into, such that anyone who has a good conscience agreement with it and tries to live within the dictates of their conscience in all facets of life is 'punished' now with the apparatus of the state. People who are rabid about wanting to make SSM legal are more often that not wanting to have true and effective safeguards in place for those who disagree, because they see their disagreement as 'irrational' or based on 'animus' and not worthy or deserving of protection. Are you in that camp? You can't seriously deny that massive amounts of 'progressives' are.
"And yes you know that would happen whether same sex couples get legal recognition for their marriages or they don't get the recognition" Huh? Uh, actually no. I did not see it happening when there were only civil union. It's happening precisely because of the redefining of marriage was rushed into, such that anyone who has a good conscience agreement with it and tries to live within the dictates of their conscience in all facets of life is 'punished' now with the apparatus of the state. People who are rabid about wanting to make SSM legal are more often that not wanting to have true and effective safeguards in place for those who disagree, because they see their disagreement as 'irrational' or based on 'animus' and not worthy or deserving of protection. Are you in that camp? You can't seriously deny that massive amounts of 'progressives' are.
Did you read the story of the T-Shirt maker who was threatened by the 'Human Rights" commission because he did not want to print t-shirts promoting a homosexual event, and they issued the veiled threat to try and close his business and send him to some sort of 'sensitivity" (read re-education training). In fact, that is what the government did to an Eastern Michigan University student a couple of years ago. The student was dismissed from its graduate counseling program for refusing to “change her religious beliefs about homosexual behavior.” She was ordered to enter a “remediation” program designed to change her beliefs about same-sex relationships. This is spite of the fact that there was no evidence her beliefs interfered with her ability to counsel others – the concerns were, at most, theoretical. Only other countries that I can think of where re-education was popular was Vietnam and in China after the Communists took over. But I'm assuming you support reeducation.
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