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Is Obama Creating a Pro-Gay Boy Scouts of America?

Marc245 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:03 PM
The bottom line on this: Obama is inserting like-minded people into organizations to further his own agenda. He is trying to change the rules. But if successful in changing the BSA rules to embrace openly gay leaders, they will effectively doom the BSA. Ever since the United Way chose to cut their support/funding of the Boy Scouts (I no longer contribute to the United Way), the major contributors/supporters are church-affliated organizations. Those organizations will stop funding, and the BSA will die. Funny--even from a non-religious perspective, the policy is only to prevent the sexualization of Scouts by predatory leaders. How many lawsuits have been avoided by preventing (some) leaders from being in close contact with these boys?
John5840 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:17 PM
as i wrote to others, teh danger is people you would never suspect of being a predator. If someone is open, they are under scrutiny and are highly unlikley to molest anyone. Not allowing openly gay folk to be scout leaders simply creates a false sense of security. You would keep Barney Frank out of the Boy Scouts, but you would let Jerry Sandusky in.
Patriot155 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:22 PM
Oh, I see,
So it's the "in the closet" homosexuals you have to worry about. Got it!!!!
Bill1895 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:28 PM
How do you know Jerry Sandusky could get in? Did he ever try?
John5840 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:54 PM
WHether gay or straight, predators are successful becuase they hide who they are. Jerry Sandusky was able to rape dozens of young boys because people like you were so focused on people being openly gay that no one paid attention to the guy who was hiding his perversion.
John5840 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 3:54 PM
Read a newspaper once in a while, OK?
Anominus Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 4:22 PM
And yet, predators no longer need to hide themselves when their behavior is normalized and tolerated. It doesn't change the fact that they are still predators.

People (and I use the term loosely) like Sandusky are able to maintain themselves because of their position and power. Position and power confer a sense of invulnerability over time, especially when the being in question has the ability to surround himself with like-minded individuals who are willing to tolerate "eccentricities" for a taste of power.
Bill1895 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 4:27 PM
No Jerry Sandusky was successful (?) because people were careful enough to follow some good common sense.
Bill1895 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 4:28 PM
Read a newspaper: inconsistent service and too many leftist idiot writers.

Yes leftist and idiot are redundant.
John5840 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 4:53 PM
Yer daft and you are willing to ignore facts in order to maintain your illusions. Sandusky was able to keep raping kids because he LOOKED so normal and upbeat on the surface. One of his victims reported him and was told that Sandusky was a saint so it couldn't be true. The danger is NOT form avowed homoseuxals, who you won't let in the Boy Scouts, its from thehiddden predators you are too blind to see.
John5840 Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 4:59 PM
You are not making any sense, or rather, that's MY point. What you consider good common sense attitudes and policies allowed Sandusky to rape dozens of children.
Anominus Wrote: Jun 26, 2012 6:46 PM
Wrong again, buddy. Sandusky had been caught in the act by subordinates who were either hushed up or swept under the rug by the higher ups, which is why they were also subjected to investigation. The "hidden predators" are still homosexuals in this case. Just because we know who they are, it doesn't make them less dangerous.
A Boy Scouts of America national board member, James Turley, who is also global chairman and CEO of the accounting firm Ernst & Young, recently said he "will work from within to seek a change" to overturn the BSA policy that bans gay Scouts and leaders. But is Turley working on his own initiative, or has the White House prodded him with perks and favors?

Is it a coincidence that Turley came out swinging against the BSA's century-old policy to ban gays from leadership and that he has such close affiliations with the pro-gay Obama administration?

Is it a coincidence that Turley and...